Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

The authors of this blog want to elimnate flash fraud on Ebay

Ebay alert uk-trader-2000 selling 64gb Sony may indeed be innocent

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British seller uk-trader-2000 sold over 20 fake 64GB Sony Micro Vault, real capacity 4GB. The seller refunded buyers who complained that is was fake. It seems that, though he was suspicious about the cheap price he didn’t think to test his drives. Please sellers – check that your flash drives actually have the capacity stated before listing them for sale! The seller then listed ten drives buyers returned as faulty as a bulk lot. Did he not consider that someone who was not technically savvy would not understand that the drives would need to be reprogrammed to be at all useable? Even then it is likely they would be very slow and of poor quality. See this article about counterfeit Sony
The seller has contacted fightflashfraud and says he is innocent and did not know there was anything wrong with the drives when he bought them. Here is what the seller told fightflashfraud:

You are quite correct i sold a number of the 64GB flash drives on Ebay, they were sold as unbranded and the name Sony did not appear anywhere within the listing, this was as i was suspicious myself given the price i had paid for them that they were infact genuine Sony products. After all a 64GB flash drive is a 64GB flash drive, or so i thought.
I sold approximatly 20 of the flash drives within 2 days, after receiving my second complaint the drives were not functioning correctly I e-mailed every buyer (you can check with E-bay if you wish as the message was sent through them),notifying them some buyers had experienced problems and if there were problems with there drive i would provide a full refund. To date i have refunded approximatly 17 out of the 20 sales, the remaining 3 did not respond to me message.
As for the the selling of the ‘Lot of 10 flash drives’ this clearly stated in the item listing and title that these were returns, as people had experience problems with them. The drives are not entirely useless they can be formatted and partitioned to 4GB and they function fine. Also i have read somewhere possibly this web-site that there may be software to ‘re-flash’ the drives. Whilst i am in full support of the writer that adverting names brands when you know they are fake is fraud, i was not acting in that manor.

The seller seems to mistakenly believe that it is only fraud if you mention a brand name. This is not the case. The reason that Sony is mentioned here is that the picture in listings shows packaging with the
Sony trademark name MICRO DRIVE. It is a breach of the law for anyone other than Sony to use this name and Sony do not make a drive of this size.
Therefore the item is indeed a counterfeit Sony and the fact that Sony is not mentioned in the listing does not change this, contrary to the seller’s understanding of the situation. The fact that he had no intention of deceiving people into thinking these were Sony drives does not change the fact that they are counterfeit Sony.
We would like to hear from buyers that have been refunded by this seller and would urge him to refund the remaining few buyers that have not yet had a refund. We will be more than happy to be able to confirm that he is in fact an honourable seller once we have the evidence to confirm this.

Written by fightflashfraud

January 28, 2009 at 7:43 PM

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  1. Thanks for getting back to us from a valid address, Lee. It’s a great comment which may help to educate people about this issue. Others who wish to comment on this blog please take note – if you do not provide a valid email address it is unlikely that your comment will be shown.


    February 16, 2009 at 10:50 PM

  2. ***Valid email supplied***

    As a buyer of one of the flash drives from UK-Trader-2000 I would like to comment on the above blog. I bought one of the 64GB USB sticks and at the time noticed that they were not marked as Sony as all the other similar looking drives on Ebay. Any buyer should know that if you are buying something on Ebay that is a third of the price of other similar items it is highly unlikely it is going to be genuine, but 64GB for £30 seemed a bargain

    I received the item and it appeared to function okay, after a couple of days I received an e-mail from the seller advising that he had received comments that some sellers had had problems with the drives, when a large quantity of information was copied onto them. Having checked the device again it appears anything copied on over 4GB becomes defective.

    After contacting the seller, he advised I return the item and a full refund was provided the next day.

    Although I am disappointed I did not get the 64GB drive for £30, (as the saying goes ‘if it’s too good to be true it probably is’) I am satisfied that the seller was unaware of the problems with the drive and dealt with the recall and refund of the item professionally.


    February 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM

  3. Today fightflashfraud had a comment from Lee stating that a refund was provided by the seller. However the email address given by Lee appears to be false so the comment has been temporarily removed. We were very happy to receive such a comment, however if we cannot verify that a comment of this nature comes from a genuine buyer we are obliged to remove the comment.


    February 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM

  4. Regarding your comments about not checking the devices i always check at least one out of a batch, (when items are retail packaged you cannot afford to open them all) but i was fooled as many others probably have been. When the USB drives are inserted into the PC it shows 64GB of capacity, it will also let you save and indicate there is 64GB of data saved to the drive. You do not realise there is a problem until you copy the data back of the drive to your PC and the files are corrupt.

    With regards the 4GB capacity, this was only realised after experimenting with a number of the returns.

    Sandy Sideburns

    February 12, 2009 at 7:47 AM

  5. Get over yourself will you?

    He gave everyone their money back and then sold them on stating that they were returns and that they were not the brand as shown. How much more clear do you want it ?

    If he had taken a bit of white spirit and rubbed the sony word off it wouldnt have made a blind bit of difference, particularly as he had already said that they WERENT that brand.

    People like you just like to have something to bitch about. Unless you’re out of pocket, know someone who is out of pocket because of him that he wont refund then have a coke, have a smile and shut the f*ck up.


    February 11, 2009 at 8:46 AM

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