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Archive for February 15th, 2009

Seller tannedweekend sold fake 64GB Kingston

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The image above shows the fake 64GB Kingston sold by tannedweekend on February 12th. This seller was warned by an ebayer that this drive was fake but did not respond to the ebayer’s message or remove the listing. If you bought this item from tannedweekend please test it with h2testw. Although the listing does not mention Kingston the picture shows the Kingston trademark name DataTraveller. This type of drive from Kingston is colour coded – Green is for 2GB. This type of drive is only made in capacities up to 16GB – if you see a drive being sold that looks like this which is advertised as having a capacity of over 16GB then it is fake. Please report the matter to Kingston and if it is being sold on eBay you should also report it to them.

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February 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM

An ebay member lists yet another fake 64GB flash drive

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Ebay member rexiho1987; registered on ebay since 4th Nov 2008 has 4 listings for fake 64GB flash drives. Although the listing does not mention Sony the photograph is a smaller version of the photo previously used by irena-ebai and the original picture clearly shows the words Sony and microvault. An ebayer has sent a message to the seller warning that the drives are fake. Here is the seller’s picture:
Here is the original picture used by irena-ebai:

Is this an innocent seller (in which case why make the picture so tiny that you can’t read what it says on the packaging?) or a fraudster trying to obscure the evidence? We await developments.
UPDATE 17/02/06 AT 5.54PM
Although this seller never responded to the ebayer who warned the drives were fake, rexiho1987 removed the listings before there were any bids. This could either be because rexiho1987 knows they have been caught out or because the seller found out that the ebayer was right. Usually honest sellers respond to an ebayer who warns them so fightflashfraud suspects that it is simply that rexiho1987 realised the game was up. The seller is welcome to respond to this post.

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February 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Ebay member cklives fails to understand about fakes

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Ebay member cklives listed and sold a fake 64GB drive showing a registered trade mark belonging to Kingston for £40. The capacity of the drive pictured in the listing appears to be 2GB. This member ID was created on 13th January so (at least on the surface) it would appear that this is an inexperienced member who simply does not understand the fake flash issue. An Ebay member sent cklives a message about the drive as follows:
You obviously are not aware of this but DataTraveller is a Kinston trademark name. Kingston flash drives of this type are colour coded and the largest capacity of genuine ones is 16GB. The one in your picture is a 2GB model. Fraudsters re-program the control chip to report the drive as a higher capacity (in thi case 64GB) you will find information about this on sosfakeflash. The easiest way of verifying the true capacity of such drives is to test them with the h2testw – a free program you can download from the Internet. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news – but selling it is likely to result in a very angry buyer and negative feedback which I am sure is the last thing you want.

cklives replied as follows:
its not kingston….and ive tested it and it is 64gb

The Ebayer replied:
If it’s not Kingston then I’m sorry to say it’s counterfeit. Legally only Kingston can use the DataTraveller name – anyone else using it is liable to prosecution. If it shows the DataTraveller name and it’s not Kingston it is counterfeit. Both selling counterfeits and sending them by post are criminal offences and could land you in Jail. I wonder exactly how you tested it, because counterfeits (in our experience)are never the capacity advertised. I strongly recommend that you test with h2testw. If you do this I am 99.999% sure you will find I am right. With something programmed to such a large size this is the only practical way to check a drive’s capacity without destroying it.

One can only hope that cklives took the ebayer’s advice and tested the drive. If the seller genuinely did not understand the issue we hope he does now and has refunded the buyer’s money.

UPDATE 8TH MARCH: Ebay has removed cklives listings and de-registered the member – so presumably the seller did not volunteer refunds to those who bought these fraudulent items.

Written by fightflashfraud

February 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM