Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

The authors of this blog want to elimnate flash fraud on Ebay

This seller claims to have genuine Kingston – we think not.

with 8 comments

pccomp2009

Seller pccomp2009 says in the listing:

BRAND NEW & SEALED – DONT BE FOOLED BY CHEAP FAKES!
Here you are bidding on a brand new and sealed Kingston Data Traveler 150 64GB USB Flash Drive. This is a genuine Kingston product so you are guaranteed to get you full 64GB’s worth!

Do we think this is true? No we don’t – we think the seller is fooling people with cheap fakes! Funnily enough pccomp2009 has used the exact wording previously used by dan-software in listings. Dan software and pccomp2009 have something else in common – ending a listing early to sell for less than we think you’d pay for these wholesale if they were genuine.

We expect that pccomp2009 will soon have another thing in common with dan-software -deregistration from ebay for selling counterfeit Kingston flash drives! Maybe pccomp2009 IS dan-software with a new ID? We trust the buyer will check the serial number with Kingston – we would fall of our chairs with shock if they said it was a genuine drive!

Buyers can check the real capacity with the free program h2testw.The computer’s operating system will only show what the control chip has been programmed to tell the computer – never beleive what you see!

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

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Written by fightflashfraud

July 31, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Posted in Uncategorized

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  1. I see this sellers reputation is gaining strength with a positive feedback for a “faulty” 64gb DT150.

    How surprising!

    So,remember folks, DONT BE FOOLED BY CHEAP FAKES!

    (Was the seller referring to the drives, or counterfeit sellers, or both?)

    Listen to those wise words quoted by pccomp. I could not have put it better myself!

    I take it pccomp will be glad he never sent that “faulty” one off to paypal to be checked????

    Maybe someone should contact the buyer and see if they still have the drive and find out exactly what they meant by “faulty”.

    If the drive is genuine, as claimed by pccomp, Kingston cover them with a 5 year guarantee and would be most interested in sorting out this little problem for pccomp.

    So, come on pccomp, I think you should honour your sales to your customers by giving what you offered in the first place. You say you have no problem with losing on sales, so put your money where your mouth is and give this unhappy customer the drive you advertised in place of the “faulty” one, not just a quick refund.

    Want a good reputation, pccomp? Try earning it!

    Traveler

    August 14, 2009 at 1:19 AM

  2. Many sellers have been previously suspended and still been allowed back as sellers by ebay and paypal without fully compensating all their victims. They have gone on with their trade in fake capacity and counterefeit goods once again regardless of what they put victims through the first time round.

    I really do hope this is not the case with ebay and another seller, again.

    I am 100% behind any seller who can put their hand up and say they have made a mistake and are willing to put it right, as has been the case here at this site before.
    There are sellers who have trusted their suppliers and ended up losing out as a result. They have gone on to take the necessary steps to make things right by contacting customers and refunding them, with genuine apologies. They have come to this site and let people know what steps they have taken in trying to sort the problem and also asked for advice.

    There are also those who have denied any wrong doing and blatantly tried to bluff it out, despite the facts staring them in the face.

    I would think the best way to build a good reputation is to research what you are selling, be honest with description of goods, stick to one ID and do not hide what has been bought. Add that to being willing to take criticism constructively, and providing good service in a couteous manner, and I reckon you should not go far wrong.

    Traveler

    August 12, 2009 at 1:48 PM

  3. service@paypal.co.uk to pccomp09@gmail.com

    Dear PC-Comp,

    Thank you for providing us with your inventory so we could check for its authenticity. We have posted your product back to you and you should receive it soon.

    We have completed our review, and as you have completed all the required steps, we have restored your account.

    We would also like to thank you for your patience and cooperation during this process.

    Yours sincerely,
    Marleene
    PayPal

    Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you
    will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account
    and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page.

    —————————————————————-
    Copyright © 1999-2009 PayPal. All rights reserved.

    PayPal (Europe) S.à r.l. & Cie, S.C.A.
    Société en Commandite par Actions
    Registered Office: 5th Floor 22-24 Boulevard Royal L-2449, Luxembourg
    RCS Luxembourg B 118 349

    PayPal Email ID PP820

    …And with regards to my Business Reputation it may be low now but im not likely to get very far in the future with stupid comments like the ones above.

    PC Comp 2009

    August 12, 2009 at 9:06 AM

  4. Hi Traveler,

    We also wondered what business reputation someone with the enormous feedback score of 1 thought had been ruined!

    fightflashfraud

    August 11, 2009 at 5:28 PM

  5. It would be so easy to send off a genuine drive to be tested after being suspended.

    I think everyone here would be interested in seeing correspondence relating to the initial suspension, why it happened and how the seller has come about being considered for selling on ebay again.

    At the price these drives were selling for it was highly unlikely they would be genuine unless the seller was prepared to make a loss on every drive sold.

    The use of alternate ID’s is another way of spreading counterfeits for sale and being able to carry on with one ID as the other is de-registered. Not much good if both ID’s get de-registered, as some sellers may find.

    I suggest it is more likely that customer complaints have put the seller in the present predicament as well as the removal of the original listings considered to be counterfeit by Kingston themselves (what would they know???).

    If all the drives were genuine, as apparently established by paypal, where is the feedback supporting this?

    By the way, what business reputation is the seller talking about? Have I missed something?

    Also, why did the seller find it necessary to hide what people were buying and how much they were paying for the items?

    Private listings are often used by fraudsters to cover up their trail in selling counterfeit goods.

    If the seller gets their facts straight on the items they offer for sale, everyone will be happy.

    The site serves a very useful purpose in helping protect others from possible fraudulent activity by unscrupulous sellers.
    It also helps sellers from losing good reputations, properly earned through honesty and decency and trying to provide a top quality service to their customers.

    The main purpose, however, is to protect people from data loss which can have a devastating effect on their lives.

    If the seller cares to read up on this and equip themselves with the necessary knowledge on how to prevent this happening to both themselves and others in the future, there are many good, factual articles here and on sosfakeflash website.

    Again, I would strongly advise anyone who bought a drive off pccomp2009 or dan-software to test and send in details to e-mail address above.
    The same will obviously apply to any further sales of usb flash drives by these sellers, of course.

    Traveler

    August 11, 2009 at 5:09 PM

  6. Hi pccomp,

    I’m sure we all beleive every word you say.

    After all, paypal (as well as immediately providing me with a refund) happily agreed to check the fake memory card I bought.

    When they checked my card Paypal also kindly offered me £1000 to compensate me for the loss of my neice’s wedding video which I “saved” to this fake memory card and said that they would prosecute the seller.

    I’m sure you believe every word I have said too.

    fake flash victim

    August 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM

  7. Hi, pccomp09 here.

    Many thanks for slagging off my auctions and ruining my business reputation. Surly you people have better things to do with your time that faff around looking for people selling dodgy stuff??

    Well I can confirm that the Kingston USB’s I was selling were genuine (I sent one off to PayPal who verified this) and they have also reinstated my eBay account as you can clearly see.

    As im sure your aware they wouldn’t have reinstated my account if I was selling counterfeit goods. What I sell on eBay and at what price I sell the goods for (loss or profit) is down to me.

    Get your bloody facts straight before you go posting pathetic comments on stupid sites like this.

    PC Comp 2009

    August 11, 2009 at 3:08 PM

  8. Correct again, fightflashfraud.

    pccomp2009 is no longer a registered user, as you clearly predicted. The drives sold by this seller have been completely removed from ebay, proving they were totally fake.

    If you have bought a drive from this seller, please test and send in your results to the email address given at http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/report-a-fake/ Your input is welcomed and valued by the team here at fightflashfraud. The more evidence gathered on these sellers, the better. This is your chance to help fight against the injustice we all suffer as a result of this ongoing fraud.

    Traveler

    August 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM


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