Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

The authors of this blog want to elimnate flash fraud on Ebay

Who would you beleive – an ebay seller or Kingston?


We find this listing by ebay member mcmilesuk intriguing. In the listing the seller states:

You are bidding on a Kingston DataTraveler 150 32GB USB Flash drive

This item is new and unused

You will receive the drive exactly as pictured

I brought this item in PC World but did’nt use it,

I had this item on ebay earlier but some monkeys at kingston complain that this was’t the genuine article

This is a genuine article

Please ask any questions before bidding

What on earth does this seller mean calling employees of the company whose name is on the drive “monkeys?” Does this seller thinks he knows more about Kingston flash drives than the company themselves? We think the cheeky monkey here is mcmilesuk.

pantsonfireAs to the claim that this was purchased from PC World we are inclined not to beleive this. There are members of the frankenflash project living in various parts of the UK and none of us saw this drive on sale in any branch of PC World.

One member of the team was in a large PC World store on Sunday and there were none of these on sale. Another member checked online and couldn't find the drive on the PC World site either.

UPDATE 6th August 2009
mcmilesukserialSeller mcmilesuk has said he was mistaken about buying the drive from PC world. We don’t quite understand how you forget where you bought something like this and why anyone would buy such a high capacity drive if they have no use for it.

The seller has responded to the request that he should provide a picture of the serial number so that this can be checked with Kingston.

We will be interested to see what develops here. An enlarged version of the serial number shown in the seller’s photo has been provided for easy reading.

Readers of this post may like to view the comments. We think this makes interesting reading.

Written by fightflashfraud

August 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM

23 Responses

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  1. Even if he did tell us, could we believe him?


    August 7, 2009 at 2:35 PM

  2. You wouldn’t care to tell us where Gary? We’re sure Kingston would like to know.


    August 7, 2009 at 2:16 PM

  3. No problem I will sell it at a later time or a different auction site.


    August 7, 2009 at 12:29 PM

  4. Would you believe it! Our modern day Robin Hood has had his listing removed AGAIN!!!!

    He is going to be disappointed. We’re not!

    You have a nice weekend too Gary!


    August 7, 2009 at 12:21 PM

  5. We believe you Gary, honest, we do.


    August 7, 2009 at 12:07 PM

  6. Thank you fightflashfraud for displaying a picture of the serial number on your site.
    I buy a lot of equipment, disk drive memory off the internet and pc world and computer fairs sometime I forget where I purchase it from and if I don’t need them I re-sell them at a lost.


    August 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM

  7. Traveler says “Replacing a counterfeit drive with a genuine one would help cover the original attempt at fraud” oohh crime of the century lets get Magnum, P.I or The Rockford Files or should we push the boat out and hire the A Team.

    Traveler you are taking this sooo personal and now private listing ooooooo it’s been a private listing since I listed on sunday five days ago and you are bring it up now, don’t you have anything do do at 1.29 in the morining?

    If private listings are a favourite with fraudsters you need to point this out to ebay not me.

    Have a nice weekend.


    August 7, 2009 at 10:16 AM

  8. “This is a private listing and your identity will not be disclosed to anyone except the seller.”

    Private listings are a favourite with fraudsters, used to cover up what they sold and for how much.

    Why then, Gary, did you think it was necessary to make this listing private? What were you trying to hide?


    August 7, 2009 at 1:29 AM

  9. Replacing a counterfeit drive with a genuine one would help cover the original attempt at fraud.

    Can’t be nice seeing one’s ebay ID and the word fraud coming up together on a google search.

    The only person dealing in anything fake here seems to be the one trying to sell a counterfeit on ebay and changing the story as they go along.


    August 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM

  10. Gary,
    I did check before I left the first comment about the fact that you had said there was now a photo of the serial number and didn’t see it. However I see it is there now, so my apologies.


    August 6, 2009 at 7:10 PM

  11. The pictures are on ebay did’nt you check before you sumit your comments?


    August 6, 2009 at 6:20 PM

  12. Gary
    You say that you have provided a photo of the serial number, but we have seen no trace of this.


    August 6, 2009 at 6:16 PM

  13. Traveler can you tell me why would I buy another drive if I am selling one? it seems that the serial number no. is not good enough and you are taking this soooo personal.

    Are you on a Indiana Jones crusade, now you want my receipts which has my address on and my credit card details or can I fake this awell

    Is Traveler your real name or are you hide behind it? is this your fake name?



    August 6, 2009 at 5:53 PM

  14. My apologies Gary. I had not noticed you had retracted your false information on your listing before I left my comment.

    During the time this listing has been running it would have been easy enough to replace the original one advertised with a genuine drive.

    You had the original drive initially removed from ebay because Kingston knew it was counterfeit.

    You claimed the drive was bought from PC World but withdrew that statement when found out not to be telling the truth.

    You also claimed to another ebay member to have a receipt for the drive.

    If you do happen to have a receipt for the drive purchased over the internet, you could now tell us all where you did buy the drive initially. I am presuming you were telling the truth to the ebay member concerned.


    August 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM

  15. We see no picture of the serial number Gary.


    August 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM

  16. Thanks for all your comments I have now included a pictures of the serial no. so fightflashfraud please check with Kingston so you and all the doubters can check that this is genuine.

    Traveler why are you making comment about me buying the drive in pc world on the 5th August at 2.29 pm, when I added the following information on eBay on the 4th August just before 8 pm can’t you read,
    also thanks for publicity I am getting on this item.



    August 6, 2009 at 8:27 AM

  17. Mistake? How can you mistakenly say you bought something from PC World when you didn’t? We notice Gary still insists it is genuine despite the fact that Kingston say otherwise. How about a picture of that serial number Gary? Serial numbers can be checked with Kingston you know!


    August 5, 2009 at 9:10 AM

  18. A recent update on Gary’s listing states:

    “This item was not brought from PC World, I have made a mistake anyone who has made a bid on this item can now retract they bids.”


    August 5, 2009 at 9:00 AM

  19. Welcome Gary,

    If you did buy this drive from PC World then I do believe they would have given you some kind of receipt. Surely you could have returned it for a refund if it was unopened.

    It would be only fair to offer you the opportunity to let people know where and when you bought this drive as there seems to be some debate on its origin.


    August 5, 2009 at 2:29 AM

  20. Why do you dish dis guy? He tel me he got receets 4 it all an can proov it. He by it wiv sofware and dvds on net. He can tel u were he bot it and u can chek if u want.


    August 5, 2009 at 1:51 AM

  21. Oh really Gary? So you think that Kingston don’t know their own drives?
    How about providing a picture of the serial number if you are so sure it is genuine? We wonder why (as you say it came from PC World) none of our team found this drive on sale there? We keep an eye on what is offered in retail stores and all over the Internet as well as ebay you know.


    August 4, 2009 at 10:01 PM

  22. Thanks for your comment, I am mcmilesuk this drive is genuine, what I mean is last week I try to sell this item, Kingston informed eBay that this item is fake just by looking at it, I am willing anybody to test this item, also thanks for publicity I am getting on this item.



    August 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM

  23. Is that a pair of pants on fire?

    I wonder who they belong to?

    Here is a good anagram of mcmilesuk:

    I smel muck


    August 4, 2009 at 1:17 PM

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