Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

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256GB DT310 flash drives from ebayer dom.lindsay90 a bit too cheap

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The buy it now price in this ebay listing from dom.lindsay90 seems rather low for the 256GB Kingston DataTraveler 310 flash drive which makes us suspect that this ebayer may have bought them from a fraudulent supplier. If they came from a fraudulent wholesale outlet in China they will be fake capacity counterfeits and a fake capacity flash drive corrupts files. If they are genuine then buyers will be able to confirm this by verifying the serial number of their flash drive with Kingston.

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

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  1. That was a very sensible course of action, which we applaud. Unfortunately it looks as though three were sold before you ended the listings and (sadly) ebayers tend to get a bit shirty if they bought an item and the seller cancels the transaction. Some may be inclined to leave a negative.

    If (as we suspect) you find that the drives fail testing with h2testw and your buyers are not very understanding about you cancelling transactions and refunding them then the article and comments here may actually act in your favour. A few previous sellers found that pointing their buyers at the article about the item helped to smooth the way with cancellations/refunds and avoid negative feedback.

    fightflashfraud

    July 15, 2010 at 3:53 PM

  2. I thought I would just post this,

    i have cancelled all of these flash drives that I had on Ebay,

    i shall post the results of the final test when I have it

    seller of the above mentioned item

    July 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM

  3. Hi There,
    Do the drives each have individual serial numbers and are the USB connecters engraved with drive details? What were the results of the 16GB test you ran?

    The word scam does not appear anywhere in the article and it is quite clear that we were saying is that we think your supplier was fraudulent rather than that you are a fraudster. It is embarrasing to make a mistake but everyone makes mistakes. The important thing is what we do to rectify the situation.

    We have never removed a post yet – but we have made it clear (on those occasions where a seller is innocent) if the seller has acted in an exemplary fashion. Those who acted honestly did not find that being mentioned here damaged them in any way. It would be impossible now to remove your name from the Internet anyway as it is already in the search engine databases – so removing your name from the blog wouldn’t actually acheive anything.

    fightflashfraud

    July 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM

  4. Hi,

    An update,

    I have tested it to 16GB

    Now I am going to go the rest of the way and test the entire capacity of this drive

    Again, in this situation, I ask that you remove my name from this blog, that is actually my real name (further proof that I didn’t know what was happening here), I don’t want people to google me and find this blog, that would be deeply embarrassing, i am willing to join this cause and do the right thing and all, however considering that i don’t use a fake name i would appreciate it being removed, i think that is a reasonable request.

    “Micro”, I appreciate and understand your point of view, but i am sure that you would not want your own real name and the word scam on a web page together. This could potentially damage my reputation later in life.

    seller of the above mentioned item

    July 15, 2010 at 11:37 AM

  5. This is a sad story indeed of a buyer trying to make a profit without doing adequate research into the product they are trying to sell, first.

    You are not alone in your disappointment at being fleeced by a dishonest supplier, this will continue until the word gets so thoroughly spread Worldwide that there is no longer anyone that is NOT aware of these scams.
    To remove your identification and effectively hide this information is counter-productive to the cause of making people aware, the goal of this blog and others.

    In my opinion it would be far better to leave this information there for all visitors to see, and for internet search engines to find, you are a victim, please do the decent thing and join the cause, you have a good reason to, and helping others surely will improve your standing, be an example, don’t shy away like a buyer that changes a bad feedback to a good, JUST to get a refund, they are traitors to the cause.

    Micro

    July 15, 2010 at 9:56 AM

  6. Hi dom,
    Sadly a lot of ebayers fall victim to fraudulent suppliers – some of the people who have worked with us fell into this trap themselves. In the past (when the problem was not so vast) we sometimes managed to get sellers to remove listings and test – indeed a couple even sent us drives to test for them. Unfortunately with so many falling into this trap now we simply don’t have the people to do this.

    If the drives don’t all have unique serial numbers then they are sure to be counterfeits. Also look at the USB connector – details of Kingston drives are always engraved on this if the drive is genuine. Let us know how you get on with testing – you won’t need to test the whole thing. Apart from anything else it would probably take you days! If you set the test to run on 16384 Megabytes (16GB) this should be enough as (if the drives are, as we suspect, counterfeits) they are unlikely to have a capacity even this big.

    fightflashfraud

    July 15, 2010 at 7:11 AM

  7. in fact i am as much a victim of fraud, the supplier guarenteed that the item was genuine

    dom.lindsay90

    July 15, 2010 at 3:04 AM

  8. Hi,

    I noticed this page after doing a search, I have personnally tested 30% of the stock that i bought of this item, the tests I performed involved pushing the product to its physical limits as outlined by kingston (max/ min temp). As well as this I loaded large files exceeding 5GB onto the test drives left them running for 48 hours and checked for data corruption.

    I think it is genuine, however I shall make sure to check them using the above listed program,

    I have to admit it was probably very ignorant for me to place such a product on ebay without checking before hand, and i would be deeply ashamed if i had done such a thing. The items came packaged and looked very genuine, the product holds 256GB of data and after tested doesn’t seem to corrupt.

    Could I ask that you remove my account name from the above listed article, you have my word that should i find that this product does not pas your test as listed above, i shall remove it from ebay and refund all buyers, and refund the cost of teh item and call it after that.

    Thank You

    dom.lindsay90

    dom.lindsay90

    July 15, 2010 at 3:01 AM


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