Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

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Kingston DataTraveler flash drives in ebay auctions from emerald48s

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The discontinued model of Kingston flash drive in this ebay listing was never made in 64GB capacity – the highest capacity it was ever produced in was 32GB. The 32GB one from emerald48s (ebay item number 150498502721) is the wrong colour to be genuine.

As both these are obvious fakes this leads us to conclude that all the Kingston flash drives being auctioned by emerald48s are fake capacity counterfeits and a fake capacity flash drive always corrupts files. The use of private listings makes us wonder if this seller may be aware they are fakes.

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

UPDATE 02/10/2010
This obvious fake sold for £36.52. Given the response (shown below) from emerald48s to a message sent by a concerned ebayer warning the seller this is flash drive was fake we would advise ebay buyers to avoid this seller like the plague!!

Okay, I appreciate your concern. I am simply selling a working 64GB used flash drive. I know it works because I have used it. I have no interest in whether it is a fake or original as I am not qualified to tell.

Also, I am not a Kingston rep and no very little about their products, what they made or did not make. I have already 22gb worth of movie files on there which the winning bidder will get. If you want to join the fight flash fraud, good luck as every product is made in China, Taiwan or Hong Kong.

I lived and worked in China and the far east, there is no such thing as an original, just company endorsements and year on year warranty, what you call a fake you can find in Walmart or Dixons for twice the price, only no one questions their fakes because they offer you warranty.

Note, if the item does not work I am happy to refund, however I won’t be drawn into the fake original battle knowing what I know. Thanks again, sorry for being direct. If you are unsure you will get working item, don’t bid but please stop fighting lost causes, before long all these firms you so respect will be Chinese owned, what will you do then?

Seller emerald48s is right about one thing – Walmart have sold fake flash drives in the past (in the USA around Christmas 2009 if memory serves right) as have some other retailers in Europe and elsewhere – a reason why we always advise buyers to test with h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased.

As to the rest of what the seller says – absolute tripe! You can bet your bottom dollar that any flash drive sold on ebay by emerald48s will be a fake capacity counterfeit – here’s the most recent listing (ebay item number 150500252835 if you want to have a look) – we think there is absolutely no chance of the buyer being able to play all the movies “saved” to this 256GB Kingston DataTraveler 310 flash drive:

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  1. emerald48s “NOT A REGISTERED USER” says it all I think! Ended up with 11 Neutrals and 13 Negatives.

    Watch for NEXT re-incarnation.

    Micro

    December 2, 2010 at 8:26 AM

  2. Hi Brendan,
    Don’t think he cares about the consequences for others – we gather he has been told before!

    fightflashfraud

    November 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM

  3. I did receive it, tested it, found it was mostly corrupted, and also it ticks all the boxes on this page, which I urge everyone to read if they’re in doubt: http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/How-To-Spot-Fake-Corsair-Flash-Drives_W0QQugidZ10000000011210190

    I haven’t left a neg yet but I will. Meantime I’ve raised the issue with eBay and told Daniel Sesay this. He now tells me to stop harrassing him. I’m not, I’m just pointing out to him the consequences of what he’s doing.

    Brendan

    November 17, 2010 at 11:05 AM

  4. More tall stories from this seller in reply to a NEUTRAL feedback comment…

    “H2test uploads broken virus files. They stress the USB…..”

    Of course it does, that is the point of using H2testw if by stressing you mean it finds fakes or poor quality flash memory, then YES, but a real genuine flash will pass over and over again.

    As for virus, I am sure Harald would be very pleased to hear his specially crafted program contained a virus.

    However there WERE fakes on some sites, some were reported last year, this site has always recommended downloading from the original source, which you can find by reading the special section on this site.

    I wonder how long this “Straw Clutching” is going on? we have heard all the excuses from this seller, I wonder when (and IF) we will hear the truth.

    Micro

    November 17, 2010 at 6:36 AM

  5. Hi Brendan,
    Did you actually receive your flash drive, test it and then leave him a neg??
    Most people don’t even know what they are buying – otherwise he wouldn’t have got away with the very obvious fake we first reported!! Seems like ebay have their eyes closed too!
    Fake flash seller emerald48s accuses everyone who leaves negative comments for him of being up to something – many ebayers are too timid to tell the truth in the face of this sort of intimidation and do a great disservice to their fellow ebay members.

    fightflashfraud

    November 16, 2010 at 11:50 PM

  6. OK, amazing I just found this – I also bought a fake from Daniel Sesay. He’s refunded me but get this – he said in his message “my product description is clear”. Except he didn’t say it was fake.

    The problem here is that his profile shows a lot of good feedback. If he’s getting negative feedback, where is it?

    Brendan

    November 16, 2010 at 10:03 PM

  7. Seller seems to have stopped selling on EBAY.UK
    however one item was detected, again a suspicious PRIVATE listing on EBAY.MY (Malaysia)
    Checkout item 150521037668

    Advert says “I have %100 feedback because we value all customers”

    Strange statement for someone that has knowingly sold fake flash sticks to a dozen or more “Customers.

    Specially as the current feedback tally is %97.4

    Micro

    November 16, 2010 at 3:00 PM

  8. Truth will out. Seller emerald48s now has FIVE negatives and one Neutral feedback for selling fake USB sticks: The Seller has the cheek to accuse disgruntled purchasers as “Plants” from another dealer.

    This is one further confirmation that the seller is not prepared to admit that what they sold is counterfeit and fake capacity.

    I wonder if ALL the buyers will be refunded, those that foolishly left positives before testing their purchases.

    The whole affair is a serious condemnation on eBays ability or should that be intention to control this Worldwide fraud for the sake of their profits.

    Micro

    November 16, 2010 at 8:04 AM

  9. Iam also a victim of Daniel Sesay i bought one last week and was contacted by many more people after that he had ripped off,I had’nt left any feed back so i was able to get my money back ,but its crminal for those who dont discover the con til after they have left him lovely feedback.
    Why do Ebay let this continue beats me.

    Fishflaps

    November 14, 2010 at 7:38 PM

  10. Anyone who is concerned about guys like this being allowed to operate on Ebay ,please complain to Ebay and paypal fraud.
    The more people who complain the quicker he will be removed and less good people ripped off.
    He is still trading the thing is its such a vlever con that people leave good feedback before they realize its a con,and thats how he gets away with it.
    The 256 gig memory sticks have a script written into them that fool the computer into showing 256 gig when its actually 4 gig ,also it puts up false headers to make you think the movies are on the drive ,what it does is over writes data so you think you are loading 100@s of gigabites but its only overwriting the 4 gig contnuesly

    Scambusters

    November 14, 2010 at 6:16 PM

  11. Another amazing coincidence, or is it… One of the PRIVATE buyers of flash sticks from this seller is none other than the PRIVATE buyer of a flash stick from another reported seller, see here:

    https://fightflashfraud.wordpress.com/2010/10/17/biggt1976-auctions-256gb-dt310-flash-drives-on-ebay/#comments

    The feedback report is identical in both cases and only ONE minute separates these identical reports.

    Micro

    October 28, 2010 at 9:26 PM

  12. Hi nandium,

    As ebay seller emerald48s sold at least one very obvious fake Kingston there seems little doubt that the 256GB Kingston DataTraveler 310 flash drives from this seller will turn out to be fake capacity counterfeits too. Either the buyers were clueless and didn’t test properly or it’s another bit of fish business!

    fightflashfraud

    October 26, 2010 at 2:23 PM

  13. Further comments: This seller has passed off 12 other USB flash devices ranging from 8GB & 16GB Cruzer’s up to 32 & 64GB Flash Voyager’s and DT200, DT310 Kingstons
    most under the Buy It Now (BIN) method, most being PRIVATE LISTINGS: There are FIVE more (BIN) to go.

    Sellers feedback needs watching:

    nandinium

    October 26, 2010 at 10:16 AM

  14. The DT310 finally sold at £77.00 and as it was NOT a private auction it was monitored for feedback:

    Comments from the buyer “top ebayer a+++++”
    So we are no near establishing IF this was a fake or not.

    However another buyer left a feedback to a private auction from this seller stating:

    “No probs here, always concerned about fake USB’s but this seems fine” So I wonder what sort of tests this buyer did and will we see any follow up feedback if the item does prove to be a fake?

    Conclusion: Cannot state whether this seller is handling fakes or not, if not then there have been some VERY LUCKY buyers at the prices reached.

    nandinium

    October 26, 2010 at 10:04 AM


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