Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

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64GB Corsair flash drive from ebayer crj54321 too cheap to be genuine

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The buy it now price in this ebay listing from ebayer crj54321 is too low for these 64GB Corsair Voyager flash drives to be genuine – the seller obviously bought from a fraudulent supplier. The flash drives are certain to be fake capacity counterfeits from China, and a fake capacity flash drive corrupts files.

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

UPDATE 18/10/10
It seems that crj54321 (see comment) is rather annoyed by us stating what we think is a simple fact – you cannot sell genuine 64GB Corsair flash drives on ebay for £23.99 with free P&P; unless they were stolen, of course – whe didn’t think of that! Naw – we don’t think he is a thief, just another ebayer who bought from a fraudulent supplier and can’t accept the facts.

Here are the ebay item numbers of the flash drives sold:

160490053243, 160490879469, 160490336635, 160489454123, 160486701432, 160486624732

Colin (crj54321) has put up a new listing (ebay item number 160495349750) with a price of £3,000.00 – presumably a response to the fact that we said you could not possibly sell genuine 64GB Corsair flash drives at the price he was selling at. Seems a rather futile response to us. Doesn’t change the fact that you can’t buy these cheaply enough to sell them on ebay at £23.99 – unless he has a very special secret??

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  1. Hello again Colin,

    We are glad to find that you are starting to realise that we are not malicious money-makers! Nor do we wish to persecute ebayers like yourself who made the mistake of buying from fraudulent suppliers. Our aim is to assist end-users and expose ebay’s negiligence – after all if we can spot fakes instantly – why can’t they?

    If we had enough people available to help we would privately warn every seller who listed a certain or suspected fake flash memory item before anyone bought anything so that they had a chance to check and remove the listing. We did do this in the beginning! However, most sellers (like yourself) cannot believe we are right – think how long it took you to realise and admit this after you found this post!

    A member of the team would spend days emailing back and forth trying to persuade just one seller to check their goods!! This was all very well two years ago when fewer ebayers in the Americas, Australasia and Europe who knew little about flash memory were buying to re-sell on ebay, but so many people are now doing so that it has now become an impossible task!! So now, for the most part, we just whack up a post.

    This may seem unfair to sellers – but they are being unfair to buyers by not checking that their goods are genunine!!

    We are not surprised to hear you got another batch of fakes – we trust you refused to sign for them and are refusing to release payment? If you already paid you should be able to arrange a chargeback if you paid with your credit card.

    Do not buy brand name flash drives such as Corsair, Sandisk, Kingston, Transcend etc. from wholesale suppliers in China – so far our investigations have not found a single genuine supplier!! Contact the brand owner for advice first – they all have authorised distributers you can buy from in wholsale quantities – but be prepared for the shock of learning the true costs and slim profit margins!!

    We did find a couple of suppliers of genuine lower capacity (8GB or less) generic flash drives in China – but you need to make a big investment and sell loads if you are to stand a chance of making any profit on ebay. Quite frankly we’d suggest you forget the whole thing – there are far more profitable things to sell and no probs with fakes either!

    Hope you refunded the other poor souls who bought fakes from you!!

    fightflashfraud

    October 21, 2010 at 8:00 PM

  2. hi alias,i have noted you comments and accepted what you said to be true, as regards to being motivated by money, my philosophy is there are no pockets in a shroud,i have been ripped of by this supplier,and i have now accepted that these were fakes,he is now being fitted for concrete boots

    changed my supplier, received a new order this morning,now i am going to open your eyes to something, i had to sign for consignment,before i did took the invoice,which was attached to parcel,read it and i knew instantly that these were fakes,

    you may ask how this was possible without opening parcel,the most simple solution was weight,i had ordered 5 corsair flash voyager 64gb,now i do know now the weight of one boxed flash drive is 118g so i had ordered 5×118,=590g,the invoice was showing 186g,

    instantly i knew this order was not right,i can now assure any ebuyer who buys off me in the future that the weight of the corsair flash voyager64gb will weigh boxed 118g,well alias thank you for letting me use your site, it has been appreciated colin

    colin

    October 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM

  3. Hi Colin,

    We understand your suspicions but the link we gave for h2testw originally connected directly to the German computer magazine the author of the programme Harald Bögeholz works for. We did ask him if we could let people download it directly from here (we all have a copy and use it regularly!) but he didn’t want it to be available elsewhere. As the program is his creation he holds the copyright so we complied with his wishes and provided a link to his page.

    We think that because of the of traffic they get for this that the magazine redirects to avoid overloading the servers they use – but we’d have to get in touch to confirm this.

    The reason we recommend Harald’s program H2testw is because it is the best thing we have found for identifying fake or faulty flash memory – not for any other reason. The program was (and is still, as far as we are aware) completely free for individuals to download and use; but distributing it (for example by selling it on CD or providing a direct download on a website) would be an infringment of Harald’s copyright.

    We do not make any money from this blog, nor (as far as we are aware) do any of the blogs on wordpress. WordPress just provides somewhere for us to write. We don’t pay them and they don’t pay us. Not everyone in the world is motivated by money!

    fightflashfraud

    October 20, 2010 at 8:52 PM

  4. well i have just spent three hours, fishing on the net,trying to find out what your site is really about,and i have found the answer,you get me to download H2test,done that, now it gets really interesting,i am now put onto a site,which is giving me the H2test,not only that but sixty enteries of free downloads,but lets face it nothing is free on the internet,because you will end up paying eventuality for some sort of sofware,now lets say we dont go with your site,i go to google,no lets say yahoo,no lets say ask,i am working on windows7,lets go for mac, safari is it and guess what,WORDPRESS comes out as the first hit button on every browser you like to name your site is top of the list thats how you are making your money,you make out you are fighting fraud,but really it comes down to you sending people to your sites,now who is conning who now,thank you colin

    colin

    October 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

  5. Your comment about the spelling mistake was published Colin – you left it on the wrong post.

    fightflashfraud

    October 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM

  6. thanks for the advice about computers,thats one thing i can honestly say know nothing about them, as you will see this is just a hobby to me,now i have a name,but you hide behind fightflashfraud,whats all this in it for you,i have noticed on your site you havent had any sleep for the last 24hours, or are you a robot,just need a touch oil now an then,or could it be that wordpress is worth $46,218,962 usd daily visits $63,314 usd ranked 19, are you going to print this or are you going to leave it out like you did with the spelling mistake, CoLiN

    colin

    October 20, 2010 at 8:17 AM

  7. Gosh, we do wish we were as clever as you Colin! By the way, you can hold down the key with the up arrow at either side of your keyboard (known as the shif key) when typing a letter that should be upper case such as the word I or the c in the name Colin.

    Any chance of you contacting the buyers who bought counterfeit Corsair flash drives from you but didn’t complain and offering a refund? Seems that three of your eight buyers agreed with us that they are fake.

    fightflashfraud

    October 19, 2010 at 8:55 PM

  8. see you have suddenly learnt to spell, at least i have taught you something,how to spell thief,so i have no time at the moment, to busy educating you, thank you colin, known as the rip off merchant, well according to this site

    colin

    October 19, 2010 at 8:37 PM

  9. Feedback for Member ID crj54321

    1. Exc service despite faulty item immediate refund no quibbles friendly comms

    2. Clearly Fake, but seller arranged return and refund so all ok.

    3. Fast delivery. Excellent Ebayer

    4. Top Ebayer A++++

    5. Spot on, exactly as described…great deals!

    6. Delivered super quick time

    7. happy with this purchase. thanks

    8. Item was fake, got refund stright away. Good seller! AAA++++++

    Just goes to show the level of knowledge about these fake flash drives how to test, and how to correctly issue feedback to a seller.

    Breakdown: Reported faulty and refunded 3
    accepted and issued positive feedback 5

    So we have THREE out of EIGHT that bothered to test, TWO of whom STILL issued POSITIVE feedback and ONE that issued a NEUTRAL, where all THREE should have issued a NEGATIVE as they were sold FAKES, their time was wasted, and the seller got NO long term reminder that they should assess their items quality and compliance with the description BEFORE opening an auction.

    As for the remaining FIVE, totally unaware they were ripped off, obviously no clue to what is good and what is bad, or how to test what they purchased. Sad lack of education in the FACTS!!

    Conclusion:

    I hope, from the feedback evidence that the seller will contact the remaining 5 buyers and offer refunds without them having to be advised to make a claim.

    Micro

    October 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM

  10. Well Colin,
    We’d be very interested to know where you can buy genuine 64GB Corsair flash drives cheaply enough to sell on ebay at under £25 with free P&P!

    fightflashfraud

    October 18, 2010 at 8:06 PM

  11. i am crj54321, i am leaving a reply to the toerag that downloaded this saying they were far to cheap to be genuine, codswallop, just because they are from china, does not make them as being fake,come to think about how would this person know that they were from china, because the ones i was selling did not say where they were from, so i would like to put the record straight, i try and buy cheap and sell cheap and if anybody is not happy with the product, money back no question asked, just remember the person who downloaded it would have had a ip address, and that will never go away, anyhow said my bit colin, of acebuycheap

    colin

    October 18, 2010 at 5:15 PM


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