Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

The authors of this blog want to elimnate flash fraud on Ebay

pianyifangshipin sells counterfeit flash memory items on ebay

with 21 comments

Anyone who buys a Kingston flash drive or Sandisk memory card on ebay from seller pianyifangshipin will find themselves with a fake capacity counterfeit that corrupts files.

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

UPDATE:
It seems that a rather smart ebayer has made a short link in feedback for this fraudulent seller to this blog using http://tinyurl.com/ – maybe more ebayers should do the same if they were defrauded by a selller reported by us or on other blogs!!

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  1. email pianyifangshipin: longhu88jingshen@gmail.com

    manolo

    April 1, 2011 at 1:37 PM

  2. Oh, really Joe?

    Well, we wish you good luck and hope you are still happy when your files start vanishing and becoming corrupt!

    The fact that ebayers pounced on pianyifangshipin without having received items is for a very simple reason. It is not possible to MANUFACTURE (let alone sell) a genuine 256GB USB flash drive for this sort of price.

    Hope you haven’t stored anything important on your fake!!

    fightflashfraud

    January 28, 2011 at 2:34 PM

  3. i will never know as the seller was inundated with DISHONEST FEEDBACK. Buyers screamed as soon as soon as they saw just one feedback, this link and i don’t think that was SO true. They screamed just TWO days after they bought that they had not received the item. International shipping was required!! LOL. There were about 20 dishonest feed backs issued like this . Ebay took him off as a reg’d user. Happily i have sourced the same chinese product at a similar price and it works GREAT and it is 256GB and it doesn’t have any virus.

    jOE

    January 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM

  4. Hi Rex,

    Paypal know full well that it is illegal to send counterfeit goods through the post and that they should not be asking you to return the item but to destroy it. Do not put up with this robotic response – chase it up the line and demand your rights.

    fightflashfraud

    January 23, 2011 at 8:29 AM

  5. Below is the email I have received from Paypal. Fat lot of use they are. They require me to send the fake flash which is actually is 512mb (tested)…… back to the seller who seems to have disappeared,……. to a very strange address….at my expense which will be $20…. and maybe I wont get a full refund. SO BASICALLY I AM TO SEND FRAUDULENT GOODS VIA POST TO A CRIMINAL.

    This means I will get $4 back after postage MAYBE!!!!! . Paypal is a joke!
    I may be just a disability pensioner, and I do know what its like being put through hoops believe me, but even I know when to cut my loses even if it does stink and I still dont have a decent sized flash drive. Maybe next Xmas 🙂

    [EMAIL FROM PAYPAL 22JAN]

    ———————————————————————-
    You can get a refund
    ———————————————————————-

    Transaction ID: 72Dxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Hello xxxxxxxxxx,

    We’re investigating the following claim:

    Seller’s Name:  
    Seller’s Email: pianyifang716@gmail.com
    Seller’s Transaction ID: 72D24xxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Transaction Date: 27 Dec 2010
    Transaction Amount: -$23.99 AUD
    Your Transaction ID: 41222xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Case Number: PP-001-169-730-731

    Buyer’s Transaction ID: 41222xxxxxxxxxxxx

    We have determined that you are eligible for a return of your funds for
    this PayPal transaction.

    However, in order for us to return those funds, you must:
    – send back the purchased item (within ten calendar days of receiving this
    email) to the seller at your expense; and
    – the purchased item must be received by the seller in the same condition
    as you received it.

    The amount you are eligible for is based on the terms of PayPal’s Buyer
    Protection Policy. We may not be able to repay the full amount of your
    transaction in certain circumstances where the amount of your transaction
    exceeds the maximum amount covered under the Buyer Protection Policy.
    Please review the Buyer Protection Policy in our User Agreement before
    sending the item back to the seller.

    You are responsible for the postage and packing costs of returning the
    purchased item to the seller and these are not covered by PayPal’s Buyer
    Protection.

    Next steps:

    Step 1 –
    Return the item to the seller, at the following address:

    beijingshifentaiqufenzhongsi5duishengdagongyu3pai101
    beijingshi
    , 100075
    China

    PayPal requires you to use an approved postal or delivery service that
    provides online proof of posting or delivery. Acceptable forms of proof of
    posting or delivery include:- A copy of the postage receipt that includes
    the buyer’s delivery address. You can get this from Australia Post’s
    Registered Post and Australia Post’s Registered Post International, or
    – A postage code that PayPal can use online to view the postal status and
    the buyer’s delivery address. You can get this from TNT, DHL, FedEx and
    other carriers, or
    – A receipt issued by the carrier that is signed by the recipient
    acknowledging delivery.

    This documentation you provide must also include:1. The date the item was
    sent.
    2. An official acceptance by the carrier, such as a postmark or online
    status. A status that shows the item was delivered is also acceptable.

    Step 2 –
    Once you have returned the item, please log in to your PayPal account
    within ten calendar days of receiving this email and provide proof of
    posting that can be confirmed online by PayPal.

    If we do not receive this information within ten calendar days, your claim
    will be closed and cannot be reopened.

    Once we confirm that the item has been sent to the seller, we will return
    the disputed funds to your account.

    Step 3 –
    After we confirm that the item has been shipped to the seller, we’ll
    provide a refund based on our Buyer Protection programmess.

    If you wish to work directly with the seller to resolve this issue, you can
    cancel this claim at any time, however you will not be able to reopen this
    claim

    You can review the details of this claim at:

    https://www.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/?cmd=_complaint-view-details&cid=PP-001-xxxxxxxxxxx
    Thanks,
    PayPal

    ———————————————————————-
    Help Centre: https://www.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/helpweb?cmd=_help
    Security Centre: https://www.paypal.com/au/security

    —————————————————————-

    Copyright © 1999-2011 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
    PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general
    financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account
    your objectives, financial situations or needs.
    —————————————————————-

    PPID PP614

    Rex Jones

    January 23, 2011 at 4:09 AM

  6. Wish I had read this before I bought!
    These guys should be tracked down and locked up! If Ebay and Paypal know about them already then they should be banned from selling on Ebay!
    No wonder the only good thing to come out of China is their food!

    Bob

    January 18, 2011 at 7:40 PM

  7. Hi JohnV12,
    You are right in thinking that if you use the wrong tool for the memory chip the memory will become unuseable – but the fraudsters know exactly which tool to use. Like almost everything else in life, once you know how to do it, it’s easy!

    None of our team use memory cards as much as USB flash drives and almost all the fake flash memory items we bought were USB flash drives. We tend to concentrate on what we know best so you’ll notice there is far more here about USB flash drives than memory cards for this reason.

    We don’t have enough photos of either fake memory cards or genuine ones to make the kind of comparison you suggest – though no doubt it would be very useful if someone did.

    fightflashfraud

    January 2, 2011 at 4:16 PM

  8. True , and i found some info that shows that you can update the firmware but when dooing wrong , the sd card is unusable . It seems to be very hard to make a program to fool your pc our other hardware this way i think . http://www.ehow.com/how_5030815_program-sd-cards.html our : http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/did-you-manage-to-reprogrammed-a-fake-flash-drive-bought-on-ebay/ I think that some optical comparison of same radom labled cards help us to step out of capacity questions.

    JohnV12

    January 2, 2011 at 3:46 PM

  9. JohnV12

    What happens is that factory workers smuggle the chips that fail testing and should be destroyed out of the factories, program them to whatever fake capacity they feel like and use them in copy casings. Sometimes the copy casings are not very accurate and you can tell just by looking at them that they are fakes, other times (particularly in the case of some counterfeit Kingston items) the counterfeiters go to great trouble to make the casings accurate.

    Fakes are alway slow – it’s one of the first symptoms you will notice – this is in part to do with the way they are programmed so that it appears data is being written when in fact all that is being written (after a certain point) is the list of items that have supposedly been saved to them. This is what leads to “broken” files – especially video!

    There are other blogs around that go into the technicalities more in depth. All we aim to do is alert ebayers to the obvious fakes (like items from pianyifangshipin) and those we think are likely to be fakes – and we always have our reasons, though we don’t always say what they are!

    fightflashfraud

    January 2, 2011 at 3:03 PM

  10. I have not experiance with a false capacity, but experiaced broken mp3 and video after uploaded more then 8 to sometimes 20% of a card … If he can proof and make such a hardware fraud himself i fully accept it as fraud .

    I remember , my 30 / 40 imported Sd Cards worked very slow , gooing beeing locked when uploaded and get warm , and uses 5 times more power . But if tested in factories, it can be a good thing to remove the broken from the working cards . ..

    JohnV12

    January 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM

  11. JohnV12

    Scanners can damage things but that doesn’t change the fact that we know that most of the flash memory from Hong Kong, China, Singapore etc has been deliberately programmed (all flash memory has to be programmed) to show a false capacity using the same tools used to program genuine items.

    fightflashfraud

    January 2, 2011 at 2:17 PM

  12. fightflashfraud

    The cards he mentioned are most likely transported in big metal sea containers , this reduce the dammage i surgested here earlier. Just beware i say again , it is absolute NOT a old wifes tale , and not every item passes a scanner .

    JohnV12

    January 2, 2011 at 2:09 PM

  13. JohnV12

    If the memory cards were from Hong Kong it is pretty certain that they were manufactured by one of the fraud gangs there who produce counterfeit and fake capacity flash memory. Although scanners do have their problems (like me setting off alarms because of the metalwork that holds me together!) it is not scanners but scammers that are the problem with flash memory items from Hong Kong! Believe me, we know – our team has been investigating this for a long time.

    As Micro has said elsewhere on the blog:

    We read all “Old wives tales” about flash memory, it’s use, it’s fragility specially in transport through airports, many are untrue, there are millions of devices with flash memory passing daily through our airports, what collected statistics there are do not seem to indicate a major problem, however it is advisable to take care of these items, most are physically fragile, easily bent, or fractured if dropped.

    One of the major manufacturers of flash devices has this to say about protection of it’s products, well worth a read…

    http://www.kingston.com/flash/digitalmedia_care.asp

    fightflashfraud

    January 2, 2011 at 1:50 PM

  14. fightflashfraud

    I imported 30 to 40 sd cards from hongkong some years ago and they all were broken . This is a known issue , also look out and protect your photo and video cameras if you pass the scangates , i have a guy who camera doesnt work as normal after passing a airport scanner in Israel since then , only small pictures can he make . I not tested but send our trafeling with memory cards and hardware items put in a metal box may be a solution to reduce the direct magnetic waves

    JohnV12

    January 2, 2011 at 1:32 PM

  15. Sorry JohnV12 but we beg to differ.

    It is much more likely that the SD cards you imported were fakes deliberately programmed by fraud gangs in China to display a fake capacity than that they were damaged by scanners!

    fightflashfraud

    January 2, 2011 at 11:11 AM

  16. Please note , it is mostly not that what you think about ( ebay ) sellers .

    Beware that cards like compact flash cf , secure digital sd and other memory cards imported from outside, must pass the import control . On airports they almost scan every product and not rarely with dammaging concequence . They use X Scanners and magnet scanners . The magnet scanner are very dangerous . Most of my sd cards i imported goes broken and can upload just 10% of the normal capacity however it seems to be a normal card at first sight . I need to say that the seller is not (our always) to blame for this. It is the policy of airports and states who broken the products !!

    JohnV12

    January 2, 2011 at 10:47 AM

  17. envy i believe you might believe what you wrote.
    these fake file systems appear very real.
    try to copy files back to your computer or play them back from the drive, it will not work.
    this is a massive criminal conspiracy by a Chinese company that sells drives through hundreds of sellers not just this one.
    thank you china!

    jealosy

    December 31, 2010 at 4:07 PM

  18. Envy… ‘the person of this blog’ is worldpress.com specifically ‘Fighting flash fraud on Ebay’. As to getting a life … I personally dont accept getting frauded as a part of my life. I suggest u test your usb drive. Does it have a number on it, it should and can be looked up at kingston.

    R.A.T……. u can lead a horse to water but cant make it drink lol

    Rex Jones

    December 30, 2010 at 11:20 PM

  19. Hey Envy,

    You sound like the seller himself or really have not tested the drive. Just because it shows correctly in properties or shows up at the GB size in Windows is nonsense. I can reflash a 1GB drive to appear as a 1TB drive and still allow up to 1GB of data to be written. That’s not proof it works, its just deception of the truth.

    Anways, these fakes are all over the place, when I got mine, not only did I destroy the sellers reputation but eBay and PayPal now have him on file. The beauty of eBay is that when you sell a fake, they lean towards the buyers side and you don’t have to ship it back. This is a nice scam because Chinese sellers will offer you the ability to ship back the item for a full refund, but the cost of shipping it back is $20 or more and you have to track it because if you don’t, they won’t acknowledge they received it and decline your refund. Hopefully the seller reads this because karma’s a b*tch, so you can scam us all you want, but one day that inevitable event will take you away 😉

    R.A.T.

    RaceAgainstTime

    December 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

  20. Well envy, we hope you will still think your item from pianyifangshipin works great when it starts corrupting your files.

    fightflashfraud

    December 29, 2010 at 9:08 AM

  21. how can you complain i brought one of these and saw your link to this in sellers feedback mine works great and the price is great get a life the person of this blog

    envy

    December 28, 2010 at 11:47 PM


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