Fighting flash fraud on Ebay

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Upcoming article about Internet fraud for Which? magazine

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A freelance journalist has contacted us because he is planning to write an article about fraud on the Internet for Which? magazine. He is writing it from a consumer perspective and is interested in hearing from victims of fake flash fraud.

If anyone would like to speak to him about their experience, please leave a comment on this post and we will pass your email address on to him – we have not made his email address public and we will not make yours public either!

What in the heck is a refurbished USB flash drive we wonder?

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Top rated ebay seller fashionuniononline advertises these flash drives on ebay as “refurbished” – we wonder what the heck a refurbished flash drive is!

We know what a refurbished computer is – it is one that has been used and has then had any faulty parts replaced and been returned to a fully functional state (though of course not brand new) – the seller says:

4GB SanDisk Micro USB Flash Drive (Refurb but new) with a 5 year Warranty

*Please be Aware these are Refurbished Pen Drive. The have the word ‘Refurb’ stamped on the Pen Drive to show they are refurb. The performance of the card is equal to a new one but they only come without packaging.

Something cannot be refurbished AND new – it is either a used refurbished item or it is a new item! You cannot “refurbish” a flash drive! You can manually delete any user files or reformat it to remove all previous data (in which case as far as this model is concerned the U3 will be lost) – you cannot “refurbish” it! This ebay seller’s sales pitch seems a bit dodgy to us. Maybe one of us will buy one and check it out.

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

UPDATE 18/O2/2010
A member of the fightflashfraud team bought one of these from fashionuniononline and we are amazed to report that the buyer tells us it passed testing with h2testw. The item was indeed marked as refurbished – something we have never come across before with USB flash drives. We are flummoxed about what exactly is meant by refurbished in this context and we still have some doubts about these.

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February 14, 2010 at 9:27 PM

Are these 16GB MP3/MP4 players on ebay genuine?

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tinfish53

These MP3/MP4 players sold by UK seller tinfish53 seem a bit on the cheap side to us which makes us wonder if they came from one of the many fraudulent wholesalers in the orient who sell fake capacity items. Many UK ebayers have bought flash drives, memory cards and MP players to sell on ebay from such suppliers without being aware they were fakes. We hope tinfish53 took the precaution of testing flash memory items with h2tesw before offering them for sale on ebay. If not then this seller is at risk of landing in the brown sticky stuff with negative feedback and the possibility of suspension by ebay.

As usual we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

August 28, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Are these lexar flash drives on ebay genuine?

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If these 16GB Lexar flash drives listed by razersystemsltd are genuine then they are a bargain.

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

Written by fightflashfraud

August 26, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Are this ebay member’s 4GB flash drives genuine?

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djc_scotland

We hope that all the models of 4GB flash drive shown above listed on buy it now by seller djc_scotland (registered on ebay on 02-Jun-09) are genuine and were not purchased from one of the many fraudelent suppliers who sell fakes. Two ebay members contacted this seller expressing concerns about the possibility that the flash drives might not be genuine.

The seller told both ebayers that he had been dealing with his supplier for 2½ years and that all customers were satisfied. However, as the seller only registered on ebay less than three months ago, and did not tell either of those who expressed concern who the “trusted supplier” is we have no way of verifying this claim.

Unfortunately most buyers just plug their flash drives into the computer, look at the properties and leave positive feedback without fully testing the drive – so we can’t assume that the 100% positive feedback for this seller at present is meaningful either. We will be very happy if we find that djc_scotland is supplying genuine flash drives. We are actively seeking genuine sellers but it seems the water is very muddy.

UPDATE 23rd October
We note that the seller is using private sales – if the flash drives being sold are genuine why hide buyer IDs?

We advise everyone who buys flash memory items to test them with the free program h2testw irrespective of where they were purchased – otherwise you run the risk of data loss and corruption.

Report your fake if testing confirms you have purchased fake capacity flash memory on ebay.

Written by fightflashfraud

August 23, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Yet another new ebayer in China selling suspect flash drives

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Another new seller based in China is selling flash drives at prices that make us sure these cannot be genuine 16GB drives. We expect that liqian16888168 will prove to be a new ID used by one of our familiar fraud gangs. This is a popular fake model – also being sold by ebayers elsewhere such as tobyjug2009 who offered the same item on buy it now for £20. When, oh when, will princess ebay awake from the slumber induced by the poisoned apple from her wicked stepmother in China, the fake flash queen?

As usual we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

July 26, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Suspected fake Kingston DT150 sold by ebayer in Poland

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butcher121.2009

We suspect the Kingston flash drive sold here by ebay seller butcher121.2009 (a new member in Poland) are counterfeit – buyers can check with Kingston as genuine ones all have unique serial numbers which can be used to check. Kingston are well aware that they are a big target for counterfeiters and provide this ability to verify genuine drives as a service to you the buyer – please use it! If you find you have a counterfeit please report it to sosfakeflash.

Another ebay member in China lists our “favourite” flash drive

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huangming032

Seller huangming032 has listed the same old model listed by almost every fake flash seller in China and bought by ebayers around the world in the thousands. We have never yet come across a genuine 16GB one and we doubt very much if this will be an exception – for one thing it seems too cheap to be a genuine 16GB drive.

As ever we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

July 17, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Are the flash drives from this seller genuine or not?

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shallyou_lee

If the flash drives offered by China-based seller shallyou_lee are genuine then why keep buyer IDs private? We notice this seller also offers the fraudsters’ favourite (leather model) so we are pretty certain this seller will turn out to be a fraudster.

As usual we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

UPDATE 03/08/2010
This fraudulent seller has now been suspended by ebay after eight months of selling lord knows how many fake flash memory items.

Written by fightflashfraud

July 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Suspect 32GB flash drive from ebay seller in France

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lecomptoirdelatlantique

We are fairly certain that the flash drives on offer here from seller lecomptoirdelatlantique are not genuinely 32GB but will have been fraudulently programmed to seem as though they are. Such flash drives eventually cause loss of files and corruption of data. We think the seller bought these from one of the many wholesale outlets which supply fake capacity flash memory. Why? We think the buy it now price is probably too low for genuine ones to be sold at anything but a loss.

As usual we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

July 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM

Generic 32GB drives auctioned by UK seller with very low start price

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clares-trading-room

We don’t see how anyone could afford to risk listing genuine flash drives of any capacity over 1GB (let alone 32GB) at auction with such a low start price. Either clares-trading-room is an inveterate gambler or these drives are fake capacity. Of course there is one more possibility – maybe the seller is a rich philanthropist who wishes to distribute high capacity flash drives to the poor through ebay. That would be nice – but somehow we don’t think so.

As usual we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

July 15, 2009 at 5:31 PM

64GB Corsair auctioned on ebay.com with 99p start price.

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xxasmithxx

We have no idea where this ebay member got this Corsair flash drive but we do know that if it is genuine the seller is likely to make a huge loss.

As ever we strongly advise ebayers to test all flash memory with the free program h2testw.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

June 21, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Is this a genuine 16GB Kingston DataTraveler flash drive?

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wholesale-shop2009

We couldn’t find this model on Kingston’s web site so we wonder whether this is a genuine Kingston drive or yet another fake. If you bought one of these from wholesale-shop2009 test it with h2testw and let us know.

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Written by fightflashfraud

June 9, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Deliberate fraud is not the only issue – so is faulty memory!!

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It has been brought to the attention of fightflashfraud that a UK seller (not, it seems, a deliberate fraudster) has recently sold faulty USB flash drives on ebay. The ones the seller had used were fine so the seller thought (when a buyer complained that the two tested with h2testw failed) that the buyer was up to something – an understandable suspicion!

We can assure the seller the buyer is completely honest and is not doing anything other than trying to protect people from losing valuable files! She has reported to us that 5 out of the 10 flash drives she bought from the seller in question were faulty. This doesn’t really affect her (other than the fact that she wasted her money) but it could affect anyone who saves files to a faulty item from this seller – they could lose their files! She is hoping to make the seller understand the issue rather than drag him through the mire.

SELLLERS – PLEASE TEST YOUR DRIVES WITH H2TESTW

Written by fightflashfraud

March 30, 2009 at 10:09 PM

SOSFakeFlash Reports Counterfeit Corsair Voyager 64GB On eBay

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Corsair now joins Sony, Kingston and Transcend to have their brand name usb flash drives counterfeited and sold on eBay. The joys of fake flash selling, the profits are so good and for brand names commanding high prices the profit is addicting. The misery of fake flash buyers, the woes of data loss and trying to get money back.

SOSFakeFlash has now two ebay sellers reported and of course confirmed. Sellers or want to be sellers on eBay. Pay Attention! Make sure you test your merchandise properly. The program H2testw 1.4 doesn’t cost you a penny and links to it are found out the FrankenFlash Project sites. It will save you a lot of coming misery if you purchased cheat merchandise. The wholesale prices for usb flash drives are not Cheap and never have been. Visit the http://flashdrivefacts.wordpress.com/ to learn more about prices. That new site is devoted it educating sellers and buyers.

The most disturbing things is that both Corsair and Kingston have had their lastest flash drives faked. This hurts! It costs a lot of money to develop new technology and having it ripped off and counterfeited with cheap imitations causing data loss and a very negative experience in the consumers mind is damaging. As usual, don’t expect eBay to wiggle a finger to stop it. They will only do the bare minimum and have always chosen the easily road – closing the barn door after the horse has bolted. It’s some time hard to see the difference. eBay appears as addicted to profit as the fake flash sellers. Mean while, brand names can suffer and the buyers too.

We understand the problems of the current economic situation. But if you penny pitch when it comes to usb flash drives, you will be knocking at our door soon. SOSFakeFlash has had a rash of fake Data Traveler 150 32GB fakes being reported on eBay. Add the recent Transcend, Sony and now Kingston we have only one sad conclusion:

Until eBay visits the Betty Ford clinic to clean up their profit fee addiction and develops a backbone to address the fake and counterfeit flash device issue for brand names and no name in MP Players, Memory Cards and USB Flash drives – STAY AWAY FROM BUYING ANY OF THESE ITEMS ON EBAY! It is not safe.

You need to understand the realistic prices. Once again SOSFakeFlash has some advice if you want to buy these items on eBay;

Use a Credit Card! Fight with PayPal’s silly payment system that tries to discourage you from using a credit card, blocking the options. Struggle through their pages to get to the options to use it.

Why? Because if you are bitten with a fake flash purchase you don’t have to suffer their moaning and groaning and excuses. You can call your credit card company. PayPal hates this. Victims of fake flash love this. It seems the credit card companies are more interested in your business and welfare then they are. Read Buying On eBay – MP Players – Memory Cards – USB Flash drives – Why You should Use A Credit Card To Pay And Not Your Bank Account

If you are a fake flash victim read up on all the Paypal advice in:

PayPal How Long Do You Have To Claim For A Refund In Disputes? A Guide About PayPal From eBayer’s Experiences

We know times are hard, but a usb flash drive is an investment. Don’t be come a victim of fake or counterfeit usb flash. Be very careful with brand names, Corsair’s Voyager just joined the brand names being sold counterfeited as fakes on eBay.

What Is It That eBay Sellers of Fake Flash Devices Using Private Auctions Just Don’t Understand?

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It is no secret that eBay is NOT the place to buy flash devices such as usb flash drives, memory cards or MP Players. There are genuine sellers of these items on eBay but they are few and hard to find -buried under the cheap and not so cheap fake flash heap. The traffic in counterfeit and fake (flash capacity) has been around for a long time on eBay, old eBay members say it dates back to 2003 but most internet evidence starts appearing in 2005.

eBay Fake Flash sellers come and go. The most recent trend is to use Private Auctions so that there is no evidence of what was purchased. This is against the intent eBay had for the use of such listing. Like other fake flash sellers they do get found out. But these sellers add to their crimes when they are caught by a member. SOSFakeFlash has seen this repeatedly in eight months of investigating.

Seeing it is believing it. Here is one of the most obvious and glaring examples.

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January 22, 2009 at 5:52 AM

Buying On eBay – MP Players – Memory Cards – USB Flash drives – Why You should Use A Credit Card To Pay And Not Your Bank Account

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The evidence gathered in the last eight months by the FrankenFlash Project and their groups indicates that buying MP Players, USB Flash Drives and Memory Cards is a very risky business. You will find more than enough documented evidence at sosfakeflash.wordpress.com.

So if you are going to bid and buy on eBay why use a credit card instead of bank account funding?

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eBay Private Auction Listings – eBay Fake Flash Sellers Prefer – Victims Learn The Meaning The Hard Way – A Guide

eBay sellers of fake flash MP Players, memory cards and usb flash drives prefer private auction listings. They avoid detection the longest, make antonishing profit and create the longest list of victims who will be made obsured by this listing category. Sellers who use this listing type are not found only in the Orient, you will find them everywhere including in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Europe. Some begin selling this way, others resort to this listing type when negative feedback starts to come in revealing the truth about what they are selling.

SOSFakeFlash has been warning about this for a long time. It is even in the eBayer’s guide written by ebayers sent to victims needing help.

Exactly what is a Private Auction listing? Why is it so deadly? What did eBay intend for such listings? How is it being abused? Every eBayer should read this guide, even if they did not buy a flash device. If you want a safe buying experience on eBay, don’t expect eBay to educate you or PayPal. To become eBay smart you have to look elsewhere. The bottom line for these companies is sales not your protection. Fake flash victims or those interested in buying any flash devices on eBay should read it too. The first step in protecting yourself from a purchase you may regret. Learn why private auctions can be so deadly.

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