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SOSFake Flash – How MP Player Fakes Continue To Be Sold On eBay!

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The problem of fake, false Capacity MP Players continues on eBay. It is growing worse! With permission from SOSFakeFlash we are reprinting their article on the subject. It demonstrates just how serious the problem really is!

Published at SOSFakeFlash On July 9th, 2009

tyeru2007tyeru2007 is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) MP Players. Registered in China, tyeru2007 sold more than 2400+ and has earned over £29000!

There are so many frauded buyers out there! Just how many will be smart enough to learn the truth? Generally there is nothing technically wrong with MP Players sold on eBay. The device is not defective! The issue is the memory chip! It has been reprogrammed to lie about it’s real capacity – THAT eBay buyers is why you are having problems. You can’t put all your music on the player according to the advertised capacity, there is no place for it on the memory chip!

We find it both sad and alarming that so many buyers of mp players are deceived. There is so much money being made at your expense. Please read the articles on mp players listed here. You have a decision to make. Do you want these sellers to continue making fabulous profits and for eBay and PayPal to enjoy their cut? Or do you feel that it should be stopped? Every person can make a difference.

2649Over 18 months ago, an ebay member was frauded. That ebayer, like you began to research on the internet, where education on the subject of fake usb flash drives, mp players and memory cards begins. The victim was horrified and started to contact other ebay members to see if they to suffered the same fate. It was not long before 1 became 2, became more. The fight against this fraud began!

So you found this website? It exists as part of the FrankenFlash Project, started by those victims. Is it useful to you? A lot of work and effort is involved. Victims help. They sign on for a tour of duty. They contribute, fight back and then make room for new people to take their place. Every victim can do something, even if it is only leaving negative feedback for a fraudster or reporting their fake to us. Others patrol and alert on suspect sellers. Every little effort makes a difference. A lot of people feel that they get satisfaction in fighting back. No one likes to be frauded. Some have suffered terrible data loss with usb flash drives and memory cards.

It is less severe for MP Players, you can always download music files again to a real mp player – all you lose is your money, your time and end up learning a lot in your quest to try and make your mp player become it’s true capacity size. That can even be fun! You learn a lot.

Unfortunately there are some eBay members who suffer a terrible financial loss. These are buyers who though they could sell them on local markets and make a good profit. Times are hard and many people are looking for ways to put bread on the table. A lot of people think that buying mp players from the orient inexpensively is the solution. It is a hot item! It is also difficult to obtain in a many country’s at a price people can afford. For these eBay members the consequences are devastating!

If you bought 20 or 50 or sometimes a 100, imagine the horror awaiting you! The fake flash mp player seller knows this. They will twist your tail! GOD help you if you dare to leave negative feedback! They will demand you leave glowing positive feedback and then to add insult to injury only refund you a 1/4 of the price you paid, excluding shipping and handling. That is when they chose to be nice to you. Otherwise they will hide behind Paypal’s skirts and eBay’s too, ordering you to return the fakes. The cost in postage back with insurance and tracking, is terrible in some countries. Frequently they will make sure you send back to an address that doesn’t exist, so they can for once say truthfully, they never received the items. Not a penny will you receive back!

Perhaps you are not sympathetic to someone who buys in volume to sell in their little shop. We are. They did not expect such fraud exists on eBay. they only wanted to feed their families. Having spent so much money they had no choice but to bow to the fake flash fraudster. That is where you come in! You bought because of all the nice positive feedback. You thought it was safe! Little did you know that many were forced into leaving positive feedback and therefore digging the hole you fell into.

You can do what they could not. You can use your feedback to leave the truth! You can also fight back with the same nastiness! Report your fake flash sellers mp players to eBay. Go to every listing and at the bottom of the page, report it! Over and over and over again. Until eBay can’t handle another email.

The only way to stop fake MP Player sellers in the Orient is to fight back! Spend a few evenings making their lives a misery as they have done for so many others. Contact buyers. Report their listings and post any to any internet site you can find that deals with the subject of mp players. Return to your fake flash seller the full measure of what they did to you. If this is not done, they win, you lose. We in the FrankenFlash Project will just grow old, our fingers worn to pencil stubs, fighting a problem that will not end. Do you feel that greed should rule?

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims.

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Written by KittyFireFlash

July 13, 2009 at 3:46 AM

eBay Fraud – Another Fake Flash Memory Seller Ring -sellasera68258, yazmin_yenthe_bay, sfrankish5872

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Who is Zhonghuanyun (cao you)? eBay fake flash seller of 16GB usb flash memory drives under the id’s of: sellasera68258, yazmin_yenthe_bay, sfrankish5872. All item were sent from this address in Hong Kong:

Zhonghuanyun(cao you)

Room 305,3/F,Block A
Sun Fung Centre,88 Kwok Shui
Rd,Kwai Chung
Honk Kong

sellasera68258 and sfrankish5872 are under eBay suspension in fake flash prison. yams_yenthe_bay is attempting to evade buyers by changing his feedback to private. Those who engage in selling false capacity usb flash drives on eBay have many id’s. It spreads the risk and avoids being found out. You can learn more by reading: eBay Fake Flash Sellers Of MP Players – USB Flash Drives – Memory Cards – About Their IDs

sellasera68258, yams_yenthe_bay, sfrankish5872 engaged in hit and run selling. Together they sold many fake usb flash drives in a very short period of time. If you bought a usb flash drive from any of these eBay seller id’s you risk data loss. Please test and a file a claim against the seller id with PayPal quickly, before it is too late.

So were is Zhonghuanyun(cao you)? The FrankenFlash Project invites the Hong Kong Technology Crime Prevention Unit to send inspectors to pay him a visit. He has some explaining to do. Why did he unleash data poison on inspecting eBay members around the world? His guilt is clear/ Trying to save his yazmin_yenthe_bay ebay id from angry victims by changing his feedback to private do no good. Zhonghuanyun(cao you) fake flash deeds have been found out!

Zhonghuanyun(cao you)

Room 305,3/F,Block A
Sun Fung Centre,88 Kwok Shui
Rd,Kwai Chung
Honk Kong

is here:

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Zhonghuanyun-2-Trio

If you bought a usb flash drive from sellasera68258, yazmin_yenthe_bay or sfrankish5872 please report into SOSFakeFlash using the Report A Fake Tab.

Written by KittyFireFlash

June 19, 2009 at 3:10 PM

A Fake MP Player Sold On Ebay – A Look Inside To Verify The Flash Chip Capacity

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Most people who buy a fake MP Player often think it is defective. Others eventually realise the truth the hard way. Often people will use the program H2testw to check what the actual capacity of the MP Player is. A few will open the player up to examine the flash chips used. These chips, if they can be decoded and searched on the internet will reveal the truth.

Republished from SOSFakeFlash, we think you will find this article very interesting to read.

SOSFakeFlash publishs a lot of consumer alerts on fake flash sellers prowling ebay for buyer victims. Evidence is collected and stored in a database. eBayer id’s, eBay item numbers, the model sold by the seller along with other important information.

It leads to alerts being issued on the internet and sellers being added to the famous eBay Fake Flash Sellers List. As time goes by the counts against sellers increase. Some times a victim will report in months after the fact, long after the ebay listings have disappeared. The project works hard to preserve information. Alerts are issued after the information has been collected, not before! Necessary given eBay’s recent behavior of shutting fake flash sellers down quickly to be able to remove all traces of lising information.

SOSFakeFlash, in this article will take you inside of a fake MP Player purchased on eBay and show you how it is possible to prove it is a false capacity, confirming what the program H2testw 1.4 reports in capacity testing.

Paypal likes to demand that victims return fake flash usb drives or mp players or memory cards to get a refund. “Return the crime to the criminal!” they order. On other occasions they will dismiss the test results of H2testw 1.4 and demand you find somebody at Southby’s to certify that you received a counterfeit.

The FrankenFlash Project has been in operation for over 14 months, they know something about fake mp players, usb flash drives and memory cards. The simple fact is, when the devices are taken apart – the truth is revealed. It only confirms what the program H2testw 1.4 reports. The secret? It lies in the actual flash drive nand memory chips in the device!

For most victims, taking apart a fake MP Player is not a task they feel up to. The latest contributor, Niko is up to the task and is presenting his findings for everyone to see! He has two fake MP Players to reveal to you, this is the first one sold by hitech2day. You will quickly see there is nothing “defective” here! It is clear deception on the part of fake flash sellers.

To PayPal and eBay, do pay attention! To fake flash sellers, watch out! We do our homework “dears “.

Listed on eBay hitech2day offered this model. Is it 16GB?

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When Niko opened the drive this is what he saw:

hitech2day-16GB-1

So what did the flash drive chip for storage show?

hitech2day-16GB-2

It was a samsung 904 k9lbgo8uom pcbo CAK468P2

If you visit InspectorTech’s site you will see the following post: Samsung Nand Flash – How To Decode Flash Storage Chips To Find True Capacity

and if you scroll down you can visit the samsung link. Give this a try. http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/partnumberDecoder.do

now enter the information characters for:

k9lbgo8uom

This is good practise for anyone with a samsung nand flash drive chip to try out!

There is no “m” available for the last character.

k9lbgo8uom

So click on search.

k9lbgo8uom-Results

So here we see the real chip size. It is 32G bit. 8 bits is a byte so we need to divide by 8. That makes 32Gb /8 = 4GB.

So eBay seller hitech2day has lied about the true capacity! hitech2day was not selling a 16GB MP Player but a 4GB MP Player. eBay, PayPal are you still with us? Can you do the math and follow the evidence? Do you really think ebay buyers are complaining without cause? If ebay members can do their homework, why can’t you? It’s not rocket science, you know.

Now the controller chip for the MP Player difficult to read in the photo:

hitech2day-16GB-3

It is:

AK2025
8L014BA 1LP

We can’t tell you much about it at the moment.

eBay members are not imagining things about the fake mp players being sold on eBay.

The problem is very real! Both eBay and PayPal are very much aware of it. Only they prefer to show a blind eye. After all, the money is good! The FrankenFlash project has observed that eBay and PayPal do not intend to put a stop to the traffic in fake mp players being sold.

You don’t believe us? Please have a look at this:

Stop this Multi-Million Dollar Fraud on eBay

Just how far back in time does it go? If you are a victim of a fake flash MP Player, make sure that you register there. You can also register for other fake flash items too! Let it grow! And grow! The FrankenFlash Project collects information too, so do not forget SOSFakeFlash or to report in! Every item matters and counts.

SOSFakeFlash issue’s alerts on the internet to warn and assist victims. They can not and will not issue an alert without evidence. It is very powerful! It is a record and it stays forever. They also will NOT remove an alert! If a seller on eBay is caught, the alert stays!

Niko is currently searching for a solution to repair this fake MP Player. If one is found he will present it to everyone.

Keep an eye out for Niko’s other fake flash MP seller and his repair solution coming soon.

SOSFakeFlash published an alert on seller hitech2day, please read: hitech2day Ebay Fake Flash Seller Alert – China Fake MP Players

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May 24, 2009 at 5:07 AM

wholeselling-auctions Ebay Fake Flash Seller Of MP Player – Memory Card – Usb Flash Drive

wholeselling-auctions is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) Flash USB drives, MP Players and Memory Cards. Based in Hong Kong wholeselling-auctions is an old fake flash seller, now using private auction listings.

The first documented fake was in June 2008. wholeselling-auctions is very skilled and slippery in selling false capacity items. He knows exactly what he is selling. His dumps in volume. When the heat turns up, he will hide in his fake flash shell, quietly waiting for a new opportunity.

In the fall of 2008 wholeselling-auctions managed to elude SOSFakeFlash and victims by closing his fake flash shop. No alert was ever published, but he was added on the fake flash honour role – the list of eBay fake flash sellers.

Test anything you bought from this seller and make sure you leave immediate feedback! SOSFakeFlash is listing every fake model investigated and even those not yet confirmed. Just recently returned he has already sold more than 3000+ items. He needs to be removed from eBay permenently. Only eBayers can do that. eBay has done nothing for more than one year. Currently he has earned more than $60,000 US.

Please do not let him get away again!

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device. Every single item and count is needed. Make sure to raise a dispute with PayPal. If you funded with a credit card, you may wish to contact your credit card company to expidite a refund with a reversal. wholeselling-auctions demonstrates what is wrong with eBay and just how bold fake flash sellers are. Scroll through his feedback and contact positive feedback members – ask them to TEST. If you left positive and have discovered you were sold false capacity – do follow up feedback immediately to alert people to the truth!

Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims and it will only allow a fake flash seller to continue, do you really want that?

wholeselling-auctions’s address:

ChiWa Wong

Room 718, Blk7. Sah Chuen Hse, Lek Yuen Est. Shatin N.T.
Hong Kong

To see wholeselling-auctions’s negative feedback Please Click Here – review the complete history to see how far back it goes!

May 14th, 2009 – we have 11 eBay listings confirmed fake .

Sold by wholeselling-auctions:

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45

46

1917

71

47

13

2162

1916

Not yet investigated:

1915

196

195

194

1914

1912

1911

1920

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1922

1921

1913

1925

1924

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16GB Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – Review This Collection Available From Internet Wholesalers

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You can buy fake capacity usb flash drives cheap from internet wholesalers in the Orient. Price points to suit everyone. A classic collection of fakes in no name brand is being presented for your inspection. The FrankenFlash Project has studied the problem for one year. SOSFakeflash has battled fake flash sellers on eBay along with eBayers Against False Capacity Devices . The war on eBay against fake MP Players, USB Flash drives and memory cards rages on.

People know buying from an eBay seller in the Orient is risky for flash technology, but why do local eBay sellers get caught selling the same fake flash goods?

Local eBay sellers order from wholesaler sites in the orient, looking for low cost with high profit. Not realistic for flash based technology. Buy low, sell high. Using slogans such as “USA Seller”, “UK Seller ” they attract eBay members trying to avoid purchasing fake flash items. When buyers report problems these local sellers often claim “defective one”.

In outreach programs, many local sellers refused to test their merchandise. Others spouted techo babel about the items storing 32GB but you could only access 512MB at a time. Some tested and discovered in horror they had been selling fakes. These sellers removed listings immediately. In the United States and Oceana they would often contact buyers to refund and warn them. The concept of recall, refund is not as strong in Europe.

Knowingly or not, local eBay sellers are helping to unleash the 16GB usb flash plague that leads to data loss for buyers.

InspectorTech and FlashChipTutor did an review of internet sites and chose one sellers collection to present. It represents many of the fake usb penstick flash drives sold on eBay. As you review the prices, please note that the cost of a 16GB flash chip wholesale is over $29 US and is not expected to go lower in 2009. The wholesale cost for 8GB is approximately $13 US and you need two chips to have a total storage of 16GB. Not included in pricing is the rest that makes up a usb flash drive. Only the cost of the chips are given. Keeping this in mind, sellers need to make a profit, they don’t stay in business for long if they sell at a loss.

If you see any items advertising 16GB capacity that look like the items presented in this collection, stay clear. We ask everyone, given the prices for genuine flash chips, can this seller really deliver the promised capacity and stay in business? What are your thoughts and conclusions?

16GB-AT21Cost

16GB-AT31Cost

16GB-AT41Cost

16GB-AT51Cost

16GB-AT71Cost

16GB-AT81Cost

16GB-AT91Cost

16GB-AT101Cost

16GB-AT111Cost

16GB-AT121Cost

16GB-AT131Cost

16GB-AT141Cost

16GB-AT161Cost

16GB-AT171Cost

16GB-AT181Cost

16GB-AT191Cost

16GB-AT201Cost

16GB-AT211Cost

16GB-AT212Cost

This is not the cheapest seller they found. You can find them at less than half of this sellers price. Naturally you can expect the nand flash drive chip used to be even smaller in real capacity in order to deliver the lower price.

Ebay sellers do your homework! Your dream of buying cheap and selling high will not lead to profit paradise, as your buyers find you out, a fake flash hell is waiting. Please test any merchandise you buy from a wholesaler in orient before you offer it for sale on eBay and elsewhere. It is not just about money, it is about the consequences to buyers when they lose data they can not replace – ever! Selling false capacity usb drives is data poison. Be a responsible seller. If you aren’t willing to research the merchandise you plan to sell, stay AWAY FROM FLASH TECHNOLOGY!

For people interested in buying usb flash drives, please do your research too. After one year of effort the FrankenFlash Project has one message for you from victims of fake flash:

Spend a little more and buy a usb flash drive from a local reputable dealer. All victims have one conclusion – they wished they had! Many feel foolish. Others suffer the pain of information they have lost forever, all because they tried to save money. It is something they regret, many bitterly. Learn from their mistakes and take their advice.

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

What Are The Wholesale Prices For Fake 16GB 32GB 64Gb 120GB 240GB 360GB 500GB Sony Kingston Counterfeit USB Flash Drives

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Why do eBay members and internet shoppers end up buying fake counterfeit Kingston DataTraveler and Sony MicroVault usb flash drives? Whose fault is it? The buyer? The reseller? The Wholesaler? The black market profiteer who has the flash chips reprogrammed to lie about their real size? It is obvious that the black market profiteer knows what he is doing. Almost all wholesalers do as well. Some resellers know, but quite a few do not. Buyers are not aware and they pay the price.

The FrankenFlash Project is continuing on the mission to educate the Global Public about fake flash usb drives, MP Players and memory cards.

InspectorTech and FlashChipTutor, researched and prepared another shopping trip! Fish out your calculator and have it handy to punch in numbers. Unlike other shopping trips internet addresses and the sites visited are not revealed, instead screen captures are provided as evidence. The Project isn’t interested in promoting these sites or educating people on how to become a fake flash seller. Instead it is an outreach to resellers and consumers to promote awareness.

Here is a rough cost sheet for flash drive chips in US Dollars, valid as of March 2009 and likely to remain for the rest of the year:

1GB = 3.38
2GB = 4.11
4GB = 6.61
8GB = 13.23
16GB = 29.41

These are the costs of the chips. It does not include the rest of the usb drive, MP Player or memory card – just the nand flash chip. Write the prices down on paper for 1GB, 2GB, 4GB. These are the most common true capacity sizes found when testing fakes. It doesn’t matter what the advertised size is. Remember for a usb flash drive the cost of rest of the drive can be about $2 to $5 US more. We don’t have the cost for a 512MB flash chip handy but it may be as low as $1 US.

16GBSonyBargain

16GBSonyVaultBargain-1

32GBSonyMicroVaultBargain-1

64GBSonyMicroVaultBargain-1

64GBSonyMicroVaultBargain-2

120GBKingstonDataTraveler

120GBSonyBargain

120GBSonyMicroVaultBargain-1

240GBSonyBargain

360GBSonyBargain

500GBSonyBargain-2

500GBSonyBargain-3

500GBSonyBargain

500GBSonyMicroVaultBargain-1

Every one of these usb flash drives is a counterfeit. No Sony drive shown was ever made by Sony. Some Kingston flash drives may have been made by Kingston, but then reprogrammed by fraudsters to a fake capacity and repackaged. The lime model is 2GB real capacity. Do you know the true capacity found for the “Sony Counterfeits”? Not one drive has shown a capacity higher than 512MB! Surprise. They are using chips most likely cost less than $1 US Dollar. Just like eBay, there are the hidden costs that come with shipping and in many cases you can double the prices you see here. Then add import duties.

Who makes the profit? These items have sold on eBay for more than $60 US at resale to buyers who did not do their homework and trusted in the brand names. Unfortunately eBay is not the only place you will find these drives. These fakes have invaded just about every country; imported by resellers who find the prices so attractive and are dreaming of profit heaven. Soon they will discover the sad truth. Buyers will not spare sellers who sell them and many have contacted local law authorities.

Please do not buy these items. Do not import them into your country. If you are a buyer, report the seller to Kingston or to Sony immediately and give them all the details of the transaction including the sellers address information. If you bought any of these items on eBay, do not spare eBay, eBay seller or PayPal. There is no excuse for sellers not doing their product research before selling. eBay should patrol for these items instead of keeping their head in the sand. Paypal according to SOSFakeFlash needs to stop moaning and wiggling away from refunding buyers – take ownership for buyer protection or remove it all together as it is a sham in the eyes of victims.

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Counterfeit Ring – eBay Sellers minggege99, abestpartner0, and niuren2008

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SOSFakeFlash can confirm that the seller ids: minggege99, abestpartner0, and niuren2008 are the same same person who was involved in the trafficking in these Counterfeit Kingston DT150 32GB usb flash drives recently flooding eBay. Over 4600+ units were sold and over £80,000 of listing sales on eBay!

eBay removed all evidence and deregistered the seller ids. PayPal is currently trying to evade responsibilty in refunding buyers. Both must be very worried about hearing from Kingston Technologies for allowing these items to be sold on eBay, many eBay members contacted Kingston and all were told the items they had purchased were counterfeits.

Who is the seller or distributor? Reported by victims, one:

LEE Wai Bun

FLAT RM 842 6/floor
HANG SENGBLDG
64 DES VOEUX RD
CENTRAL
Hong Kong

To assist the Hong Kong Police and the Hong Kong Technology Crime Division to find and question Lee Wai Bun about these counterfeits:

Kingston DT150-Large

Kingston DT150-Detail

You can also write to the Technology Crime Prevention Unit at:

cpu-tcd@police.gov.hk

or if you wish, donate your fake by mailing it with your details to:

Technology Crime Prevention Unit,
Technology Crime Division,
Commercial Crime Bureau, HKP,
22/F, Arsenal House,
Police Headquarters,
1 Arsenal Street, Wanchai
Hong Kong.