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Kingston Technologies WebSite Feature To Verify Capacity Offered By Product Line

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Kingston Technologies has introduced a wonderful new feature for searching their consumer usb flash drive products. You can select the capacity and see which product lines offer the desired capacity. It is a great search consulting tool and part of Kingston’s effort to combat those who would like to sell cheap imitations (counterfeits) of their products or try to super boost older models to report false capacity to operating systems.

Almost all major brand names are currently under attack from counterfeiters and re-programmers. Two companies, Kingston and Sony are fighting back. Kingston is applying additional effort to aid consumers world wide. They have a serial verification site and now have improved their search feature to show what are the capacity sizes they manufactured for a particular product line.

If you wish to purchase a Kingston usb flash drive on the internet you should always visit a Kingston website to verify they really make the product in the capacity being advertised to you by a seller. Your first step to being a smart and well informed consumer. If you don’t see the capacity offered by Kingston, you can be 100% sure that it is a counterfeit which will report a false capacity.

Such flash drives are very dangerous to use as digitally altered flash drives lead to data loss – eventually ALL FILES are lost or corrupted. To check what is currently available from Kingston see:
http://www.kingston.com/flash/DataTravelers_consumer.asp

If you are a potential reseller stay away from importing any drives like the ones below from Chinese wholesale suppliers!!

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64GBlarge2They were never make by Kingston. You can not purchase 64GB USB flash drives wholesale (even generic ones, let alone a brand name) at the price shown above. There is no such thing as “Upgrading” a usb flash drive, as suggested in the advert above.

You can not make a 2GB flash memory chip magically grow to 4GB, 8GB 16GB or more with some sort of software upgrade. Translated UPGRADE means “trick the operating system” into believing the usb flash drive can hold more data than it can actually hold.

If you see any USB flash drives with a shiny little sticker for size like the one on the left or the green and yellow “quality control” sticker shown in both pictures, then you are looking at a fake.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS:
Kingston does not use sticky labels to indicate the size of USB flash drives.

Kingston produce quality USB flash drives and are not so miserly as to cut corners with a sticker for the size.

If you wish to be safe consult: http://www.kingston.com/wheretobuy/Regions.asp and find a retailer near you. These are difficult times, support your local sellers and help your own country’s economy.

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Written by KittyFireFlash

June 18, 2009 at 5:48 AM

16GB Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – Review This Collection Available From Internet Wholesalers

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You can buy fake capacity usb flash drives cheap from internet wholesalers in the Orient. Price points to suit everyone. A classic collection of fakes in no name brand is being presented for your inspection. The FrankenFlash Project has studied the problem for one year. SOSFakeflash has battled fake flash sellers on eBay along with eBayers Against False Capacity Devices . The war on eBay against fake MP Players, USB Flash drives and memory cards rages on.

People know buying from an eBay seller in the Orient is risky for flash technology, but why do local eBay sellers get caught selling the same fake flash goods?

Local eBay sellers order from wholesaler sites in the orient, looking for low cost with high profit. Not realistic for flash based technology. Buy low, sell high. Using slogans such as “USA Seller”, “UK Seller ” they attract eBay members trying to avoid purchasing fake flash items. When buyers report problems these local sellers often claim “defective one”.

In outreach programs, many local sellers refused to test their merchandise. Others spouted techo babel about the items storing 32GB but you could only access 512MB at a time. Some tested and discovered in horror they had been selling fakes. These sellers removed listings immediately. In the United States and Oceana they would often contact buyers to refund and warn them. The concept of recall, refund is not as strong in Europe.

Knowingly or not, local eBay sellers are helping to unleash the 16GB usb flash plague that leads to data loss for buyers.

InspectorTech and FlashChipTutor did an review of internet sites and chose one sellers collection to present. It represents many of the fake usb penstick flash drives sold on eBay. As you review the prices, please note that the cost of a 16GB flash chip wholesale is over $29 US and is not expected to go lower in 2009. The wholesale cost for 8GB is approximately $13 US and you need two chips to have a total storage of 16GB. Not included in pricing is the rest that makes up a usb flash drive. Only the cost of the chips are given. Keeping this in mind, sellers need to make a profit, they don’t stay in business for long if they sell at a loss.

If you see any items advertising 16GB capacity that look like the items presented in this collection, stay clear. We ask everyone, given the prices for genuine flash chips, can this seller really deliver the promised capacity and stay in business? What are your thoughts and conclusions?

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This is not the cheapest seller they found. You can find them at less than half of this sellers price. Naturally you can expect the nand flash drive chip used to be even smaller in real capacity in order to deliver the lower price.

Ebay sellers do your homework! Your dream of buying cheap and selling high will not lead to profit paradise, as your buyers find you out, a fake flash hell is waiting. Please test any merchandise you buy from a wholesaler in orient before you offer it for sale on eBay and elsewhere. It is not just about money, it is about the consequences to buyers when they lose data they can not replace – ever! Selling false capacity usb drives is data poison. Be a responsible seller. If you aren’t willing to research the merchandise you plan to sell, stay AWAY FROM FLASH TECHNOLOGY!

For people interested in buying usb flash drives, please do your research too. After one year of effort the FrankenFlash Project has one message for you from victims of fake flash:

Spend a little more and buy a usb flash drive from a local reputable dealer. All victims have one conclusion – they wished they had! Many feel foolish. Others suffer the pain of information they have lost forever, all because they tried to save money. It is something they regret, many bitterly. Learn from their mistakes and take their advice.

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

What Are The Wholesale Prices For Fake 16GB 32GB 64Gb 120GB 240GB 360GB 500GB Sony Kingston Counterfeit USB Flash Drives

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Why do eBay members and internet shoppers end up buying fake counterfeit Kingston DataTraveler and Sony MicroVault usb flash drives? Whose fault is it? The buyer? The reseller? The Wholesaler? The black market profiteer who has the flash chips reprogrammed to lie about their real size? It is obvious that the black market profiteer knows what he is doing. Almost all wholesalers do as well. Some resellers know, but quite a few do not. Buyers are not aware and they pay the price.

The FrankenFlash Project is continuing on the mission to educate the Global Public about fake flash usb drives, MP Players and memory cards.

InspectorTech and FlashChipTutor, researched and prepared another shopping trip! Fish out your calculator and have it handy to punch in numbers. Unlike other shopping trips internet addresses and the sites visited are not revealed, instead screen captures are provided as evidence. The Project isn’t interested in promoting these sites or educating people on how to become a fake flash seller. Instead it is an outreach to resellers and consumers to promote awareness.

Here is a rough cost sheet for flash drive chips in US Dollars, valid as of March 2009 and likely to remain for the rest of the year:

1GB = 3.38
2GB = 4.11
4GB = 6.61
8GB = 13.23
16GB = 29.41

These are the costs of the chips. It does not include the rest of the usb drive, MP Player or memory card – just the nand flash chip. Write the prices down on paper for 1GB, 2GB, 4GB. These are the most common true capacity sizes found when testing fakes. It doesn’t matter what the advertised size is. Remember for a usb flash drive the cost of rest of the drive can be about $2 to $5 US more. We don’t have the cost for a 512MB flash chip handy but it may be as low as $1 US.

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Every one of these usb flash drives is a counterfeit. No Sony drive shown was ever made by Sony. Some Kingston flash drives may have been made by Kingston, but then reprogrammed by fraudsters to a fake capacity and repackaged. The lime model is 2GB real capacity. Do you know the true capacity found for the “Sony Counterfeits”? Not one drive has shown a capacity higher than 512MB! Surprise. They are using chips most likely cost less than $1 US Dollar. Just like eBay, there are the hidden costs that come with shipping and in many cases you can double the prices you see here. Then add import duties.

Who makes the profit? These items have sold on eBay for more than $60 US at resale to buyers who did not do their homework and trusted in the brand names. Unfortunately eBay is not the only place you will find these drives. These fakes have invaded just about every country; imported by resellers who find the prices so attractive and are dreaming of profit heaven. Soon they will discover the sad truth. Buyers will not spare sellers who sell them and many have contacted local law authorities.

Please do not buy these items. Do not import them into your country. If you are a buyer, report the seller to Kingston or to Sony immediately and give them all the details of the transaction including the sellers address information. If you bought any of these items on eBay, do not spare eBay, eBay seller or PayPal. There is no excuse for sellers not doing their product research before selling. eBay should patrol for these items instead of keeping their head in the sand. Paypal according to SOSFakeFlash needs to stop moaning and wiggling away from refunding buyers – take ownership for buyer protection or remove it all together as it is a sham in the eyes of victims.

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Counterfeit Ring – eBay Sellers minggege99, abestpartner0, and niuren2008

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SOSFakeFlash can confirm that the seller ids: minggege99, abestpartner0, and niuren2008 are the same same person who was involved in the trafficking in these Counterfeit Kingston DT150 32GB usb flash drives recently flooding eBay. Over 4600+ units were sold and over £80,000 of listing sales on eBay!

eBay removed all evidence and deregistered the seller ids. PayPal is currently trying to evade responsibilty in refunding buyers. Both must be very worried about hearing from Kingston Technologies for allowing these items to be sold on eBay, many eBay members contacted Kingston and all were told the items they had purchased were counterfeits.

Who is the seller or distributor? Reported by victims, one:

LEE Wai Bun

FLAT RM 842 6/floor
HANG SENGBLDG
64 DES VOEUX RD
CENTRAL
Hong Kong

To assist the Hong Kong Police and the Hong Kong Technology Crime Division to find and question Lee Wai Bun about these counterfeits:

Kingston DT150-Large

Kingston DT150-Detail

You can also write to the Technology Crime Prevention Unit at:

cpu-tcd@police.gov.hk

or if you wish, donate your fake by mailing it with your details to:

Technology Crime Prevention Unit,
Technology Crime Division,
Commercial Crime Bureau, HKP,
22/F, Arsenal House,
Police Headquarters,
1 Arsenal Street, Wanchai
Hong Kong.

BEWARE of FAKE 8GB 16GB 32GB 64GB USB Flash Drives – The Most Famous And Oldest Fake Still Sold On eBay And Internet Sites

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Would you like to see the oldest and still very popular fake usb flash drive sold on eBay and available at internet wholesaler sites in China? This drive normally doesn’t have a genuine flash drive capacity more than 2GB but it has been reprogrammed to false capacity sizes as high as 64GB!

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

It has been sold for several years on eBay, by many fake flash sellers. If you see a drive like this being sold – make your bidding fingers run in the opposite direction! There is something special about this particular fake besides the fact that more eBayers have been stung by this one model then any other. This is the false capacity usb flash drive that started the war on fake flash selling. If you are reading articles at one of the FrankenFlash Project websites – you can thank this model.

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One of the good things about this fake is that it is easy to take a part to decode the flash chip and the controller chip. It usually has an icreate controller but the flash drive chips differ. It has been sold for very low prices and very high prices. Much depends on the size of the false capacity. For example if you want it to pretend to be 32GB this is a wholesale price being offered at a site in the orient for resellers.

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The seller says there are 8 4GB flash chips inside. Hmmm.

The circuit board is 2 inches long. So how could you get 8 4GB flash chips and the controller chip to fit even if you use both sides? Old flash drives generally have a flash drive chip 3/4 inch long. Even if they are 1/2 inch long each, there is no place for the controller chip. The icreate chip is 1/4 inch in length. Flash drive chips need a distance from each other for soldering. To make 8 chips seen as one, you need a very advanced controller and that would cost $

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It has been sold under so many descriptions and so many sizes. In the past, listings would boost about it being a Samsung flash drive. 50% of fake flash sellers on eBay still offer this ancient. It can be ordered wholesale in large quantities for as low as $2.5 Small wonder then that it continues to be present on eBay.

Use it at it’s false capacity and you will lose data.

Victims complain it stores files in Chinese. Please, nobody is kidding here but people unfamiliar with computers and technology have said this and not once either. No it does not store files in Chinese, but the swiggles and strange characters one often sees is the result of corruption once you exceed the true capacity. Not only that, you can not delete the files or folders. You have to reformat it in the operating system to begin another cycle of fake flash data loss.

The good news is that this is one of the easiest fakes to repair. And once repaired to it’s tiny real capacity it behaves.

This classic of classics will be around for a long time to come. It is very inexpensive for resellers, the temptation just too great. Mostly you will find it at 16GB these days. The higher false capacities are just too obvious to most and real 32GB and 64GB flash drives can be found under $150 these, with rebates from genuine brand, a lot less.

So if you see this drive advertised for more than 2GB in size stay clear. By the way, it comes in true capacities as low as 512MB…

If you want to review all the counterfeits found on eBay you can visit these two sites. Just type in the word Kingston in the search box to see what is currently documented:

Written by KittyFireFlash

April 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Sony Upgrades Kingston DataTraveler DTI/2GB To 64GB – Scams And Fraudsters!

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Would Sony upgrade Kingston’s DataTraveler 2GB DTI/2GB to an amazing 64GB? They are competitors in the usb flash drive market. Why would Sony give Kingston a helping hand and make a 2GB usb flash drive walk on water? To demonstrate they have more knowledge and expertise? FlashChipTutor doesn’t think so. It is just more fake flash spin from counterfeiters who continue to attack both brand names to make their fake flash profits.

Resellers looking to make a fast dollar order from these wholesale internet sites in the Orient. For $15 US can a counterfeit. Most are resold on eBay. “Upgrading” is a polite word used in the orient for digitally altering a usb flash drive to lie about it’s true capacity to the operating system.

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

Sony did not exactly upgrade this usb flash drive. It is also the lime model and that would be only 2GB true capacity if it actually has the right flash drive chip inside. Anyone who used this drive will suffer data loss once they exceed 2GB.

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If you want to review all the counterfeits found on eBay you can visit these two sites. Just type in the word Kingston in the search box to see what is currently documented:

Is Kingston And Sony Making Cheap 16GB USB Flash Drives? A Sony MicroVault DataTraveler Wholesale $11 US

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Sony and Kingston, are they joining forces to make a Sony MicroVault DataTraveler usb flash drive? Yes you can buy them wholesale. The best of both worlds Sony and Kingston. Their famous usb flash drive names: MicroVault and Datatraveler.

Of course there is no such thing. Kingston did not make it and Sony did not make it. FlashChipTutor is convinced they are not the ones to come up with such a hybrid. Of course it is just more fake flash spin. You can buy them cheap too. These 16GB fakes are selling at less then the cost of an grade A 8GB flash drive chip!

Naturally you can expect to NOT receive the advertised capacity. This the famous little fake that sports the Sony name and the Microvault brand. SOSFakeFlash doesn’t have a true capacity on record higher than 512MB so far. It can be just about any size you want it to be, fake flash reprogrammers are happy to oblige so long as they get their cut. The bigger you want it to be, the more they will charge you. This little counterfeit has been sold in sizes as high as 500GB! There are no usb flash pen sticks on the market for consumers higher than 64GB. This famous counterfeit does a lot of damage to buyers data. If you want to lose your precious files, buy this drive. If you are a reseller who wants to cheat people and then be chased from pillar to post by angry buyers and have the police knocking at your door this is thing to sell.

Important Reading:

Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.

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If you want to review all the counterfeits found on eBay you can visit these two sites. Just type in the word Kingston in the search box to see what is currently documented: